Nov 23, 2014, 3:59 pm
Last edit by: Cloudship
Carry-on Bags and Personal Items that have been tested to fit in the New Sizers
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Bags that Do Not Fit Sizers
Official size as per Rule 23.B.2, Baggage, Contract of Carriage:
Under the 2013 contract of carriage, which is still valid for various tickets outstanding, the cabin baggage rule states a maximum of 45 linear inches combined for the LHW dimensions with no given side exceeding 22 inches. For such tickets, the cabin bag sizers are not lawfully applicable if the LHW combined linear inches don't exceed 45 linear inches and no side of the bag exceeds 22 inches. In other words for tickets issued last year, some bags allowed under the contract of carriage don't fit in the sizer without sticking out on at least one side.
Published carry-on limit: 9"x14"x22"
Actual sizer dimensions: 10"x15"x23"
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Carry-On Sizer
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Briggs & Riley Baseline 20" 03/2014 IAH boraxo Briggs & Riley Torq 01/2014 CLE lordhamster Briggs & Riley Transcend TU220XW-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. 311 bag had to be removed from outer pouch. Two weeks of clothes. Briggs & Riley U122CX 01/2014 SNA sakaike Briggs & Riley BU119 (BRX 19 upright) 05/2014 SMF PV_Premier, snug in 10" dimension even when packed lightly - bag fits in any mainline OH however :rolleyes: Brookstone Dash Office 01/2014 DSM Fits OH E145/C200 Eagle Creek Hovercraft 22" 03/2014 CLT Not stuffed full eBags TLS Mini 21"EB2146-21W 04/2014 swco-not overstuffed, just fit Heys Xcase 12/2013 LAX abaheti Int'l Paper Safeway Grocery 02/2014 IAH IAH-OIL-TRASH Kirkland Signature 21.5 12/2013 SFO Red Oxx Air Boss 02/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Red Oxx Sky Train 01/2014 SFO N1120A (loaded) Ricardo of BevHills Dash 20inch Dual 01/2014 Fredd Wheel Spinner Costco @ $50-expandable Rick Steves Backpack 12/2013 LAX LaserSailor Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA 02/2014 SEA MSY-MSP Samsonite Aspire Lite 03/2014 DEN Samsonite Short-Lite 2-wheeled 12/2013 ORD Lightest bag out there Samsonite Silhouette Sphere 21" 05/2014 BOS Fits perfectly but very snugly Tom Bihn Aeronaut 03/2014 Uncle Dave - fits every dimension with room to spare Travelite Delite v 2.0 02/2014 ORD exbayern (bag full) TravelPro Crew 4 22" 08/2014 SFO Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 7 20" 12/2013 KWI full - not expanded FriendlySkies TravelPro Crew 8 22" 11/2013 DFW Not stuffed full TravelPro Crew 9 21" spinner 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint not stuffed TravelPro FlightCrew3 22" 02/2014 BOS Not stuffed full. Very snug fit CDKing TravelPro FlightCrew4 20" various Not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite2 20in 12/2013 SFO Expandable too TravelPro Maxlite2 22in 03/2014 Snug fit not stuffed TravelPro Maxlite3 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Spinners2 21" 04/2014 EWR EmileG - full, outside compartment empty TravelPro Walkabout Lite 4 03/2014 IND United747 - pretty empty bag to start with TUMI Alpha 22922 Many FLL DelrayChris TUMI Alpha 28251 lw Continental 03/2014 EWR lensman TUMI Alpha 2 22021 Continental 04/2014 EWR suzy1K - fit perfectly. Bag full, not expanded TUMI Alpha International 20" 022020DH 04/2014 SFO Snug if front pocket used, easy fit on 22/23" dimension by 1" TUMI T-Tech Int'l Carryon 04/2014 jeremiahsullivan Victorinox Avolve 22" 02/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels - only with front pocket empty Victorinox Mobilizer NXT 5.0 20" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - not expanded, every dimension fits with room to spare Victorinox WT 4.0 Duffel 21" 03/2014 ORD gobluetwo - packed for 3 days, squeezed sides easily into sizer
Published personal item limit: 9"x10"x17"
Actual sizer dimensions: 9"x11"x18"
Bags that Fit Personal Item Sizer
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment
Briggs & Riley Verb VB414-4 03/2014 COS mre5765. Easy fit despite being stuffed with sleeved 13 inch lap top, ipad mini, kindle paperwhite, pills, papers, chargers, ...
Case Logic 14" ZLCS-214 04/2014 EWR Fly5x
eBags TLS Pro Slim Laptop 04/2014
Backpack EB2146-16
Everki Versa Premium Backpack 07/2014 ORD gobluetwo
Skooba Satchel v3 02/2014 ORD ilovesprint
Tom Bihn Co-Pilot 03/2014 SFO frankmu
Tom Bihn Super Ego 03/2014 GRR LufthansaFlyer
Tom Binh Western Flyer 01/2014 DSM when packed "right"
Waterfield Cargo Large 01/2014 SFO MrOCTeckels
LL Bean North Ridge Backpack 04/2014 LAX fgirard Works with a 13" MackBook, Asus Transformer packed inside
Code:
Bag Manufacturer Model Date Test Location Comment Eagle Creek Tarmac 20 wide 03/3014 AUS Curvature on back increases width Eagle Creek Tarmac ES 22 03/2014 1/2 inch too tall Gregory Cache 22 03/2014 BOS Cloudship Timbuk2 Checkpoint Roller 12/2014 BOS Cloudship Tumi Alpha Backpack 03/2014 SEA Full bag, fit length and height, 1/2" too tall when laying on side in personal sizer.
https://www.united.com/web/format/pd...f_Carriage.pdf
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles.
Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles.
A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.
Carry-on Items That Meets United's Sizer Box? Enforcement? [ARCHIVE]
Feb 22, 2014, 7:09 pm
#766
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 8,634
"Below general guidelines can help you plan your travel. However, please make sure to check with your airline first as baggage allowance will differ depending on airline, route, class fare, etc."
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passeng...check-bag.aspx
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passeng...check-bag.aspx
Feb 22, 2014, 8:27 pm
#767
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: BOS
Programs: MP,MR Silver,Avis
Posts: 848
"Below general guidelines can help you plan your travel. However, please make sure to check with your airline first as baggage allowance will differ depending on airline, route, class fare, etc."
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passeng...check-bag.aspx
http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/passeng...check-bag.aspx
Feb 23, 2014, 4:25 pm
#768
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hoboken, NJ; Pembroke Pines, FL
Programs: CO Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,939
I try to state such contrasts directly rather than implying them. My managers say that this is why they feel I always add value in meetings by eliminating disagreements stemming from misunderstanding and miscommunication.
I also try not to make fun of others when they misunderstand what I'm saying. I take it as a personal mission to attribute such mistakes to my own inability to communicate unambiguously. As it turns out, this has the downside of being somewhat tedious and longwinded, as you can see.
I am also accused of being insufferably condescending. I agree that this is a problem for me.
Feb 23, 2014, 4:32 pm
#769
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: SEA/YVR/BLI
Programs: UA "Lifetime" Gold, AS MVPG100K, OW Emerald, HH Lifetime Diamond, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 9,492
...I also try not to make fun of others when they misunderstand what I'm saying. I take it as a personal mission to attribute such mistakes to my own inability to communicate unambiguously. As it turns out, this has the downside of being somewhat tedious and longwinded, as you can see.
I am also accused of being insufferably condescending. I agree that this is a problem for me...
I am also accused of being insufferably condescending. I agree that this is a problem for me...
Feb 23, 2014, 4:34 pm
#770
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 8,634
Eric, don't feel bad. I had the same misunderstanding about mgcsinc's original post - that is that the IATA standard matched UA's rules. It's because mgcsinc posted the same dimensions twice rather than directly contrasting the UA dimensions against the IATA dimensions.
I try to state such contrasts directly rather than implying them. My managers say that this is why they feel I always add value in meetings by eliminating disagreements stemming from misunderstanding and miscommunication.
I also try not to make fun of others when they misunderstand what I'm saying. I take it as a personal mission to attribute such mistakes to my own inability to communicate unambiguously. As it turns out, this has the downside of being somewhat tedious and longwinded, as you can see.
I am also accused of being insufferably condescending. I agree that this is a problem for me.
I try to state such contrasts directly rather than implying them. My managers say that this is why they feel I always add value in meetings by eliminating disagreements stemming from misunderstanding and miscommunication.
I also try not to make fun of others when they misunderstand what I'm saying. I take it as a personal mission to attribute such mistakes to my own inability to communicate unambiguously. As it turns out, this has the downside of being somewhat tedious and longwinded, as you can see.
I am also accused of being insufferably condescending. I agree that this is a problem for me.
I don't think it's inappropriate or particularly mean to say "welcome to the party" when someone misunderstand the basic source of controversy behind a many-pages-long thread. I was just being cheeky.
Feb 23, 2014, 4:51 pm
#771
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DSM
Programs: UA 1K, AA EP, DL PL, HH Dia, Marriott Gld, National Exp
Posts: 723
Added the Tom Binh Western Flyer to the Wiki, as potential good fit for the personal item. When packed appropriately, fills sizer completely, maximizing all dimensions, as long as outside pockets aren't overfilled (but easy enough to put water bottle and book in pocket if necessary) and nothing inside "taller" than 10" or so.
CLARIFICATION: as was pointed out to me by fellow FTer, by published dimensions the Flyer is too "tall" for the personal item. It is 7" front-back and 12" top-bottom. Mine packed is 9" front-back, 10-11" top-bottom. Because of the give of the soft sides mine ends up fatter and shorter, hence fitting the sizer. photos here Western Flyer in Personal Item sizer
And it is a fabulous bag. Over 300 domestic segments over past 18 months and only one frayed decorative thread on the slip-over sleeve.
http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0950.html
Of note, the Brookstone Dash Office, fits in both sizers, but is about 2 inches too "tall" for the personal item. Nice thing about this bag, it fits in the overhead bin of the smallest regional jets (including E145 and C200).
http://www.brookstone.com/rolling-ha...travel-luggage
CLARIFICATION: as was pointed out to me by fellow FTer, by published dimensions the Flyer is too "tall" for the personal item. It is 7" front-back and 12" top-bottom. Mine packed is 9" front-back, 10-11" top-bottom. Because of the give of the soft sides mine ends up fatter and shorter, hence fitting the sizer. photos here Western Flyer in Personal Item sizer
And it is a fabulous bag. Over 300 domestic segments over past 18 months and only one frayed decorative thread on the slip-over sleeve.
http://www.tombihn.com/PROD/TB0950.html
Of note, the Brookstone Dash Office, fits in both sizers, but is about 2 inches too "tall" for the personal item. Nice thing about this bag, it fits in the overhead bin of the smallest regional jets (including E145 and C200).
http://www.brookstone.com/rolling-ha...travel-luggage
Last edited by dorisrpas; Mar 14, 2014 at 6:31 pm Reason: added size clarification
Feb 23, 2014, 7:15 pm
#772
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott/SPG/Hilton Gold, PreCheck + Clear
Posts: 2,306
But just so we're clear: I went and measured both of my carry-ons and they're both 14" wide. Every rollaboard I've ever seen is 14" wide. I can't fathom how any official travel body would endorse an 18" wide carry-on bag. UA is well within its rights to begin enforcing this rule more carefully.
Feb 23, 2014, 8:17 pm
#773
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Hoboken, NJ; Pembroke Pines, FL
Programs: CO Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,939
I don't think it's inappropriate or particularly mean to say "welcome to the party" when someone misunderstand the basic source of controversy behind a many-pages-long thread. I was just being cheeky.
But just so we're clear: I went and measured both of my carry-ons and they're both 14" wide. Every rollaboard I've ever seen is 14" wide. I can't fathom how any official travel body would endorse an 18" wide carry-on bag. UA is well within its rights to begin enforcing this rule more carefully.
British Airways: 22 x 18 x 10
Air France: 21.65 x 13.77 x 9.8
Emirates: 22 x 15 x 8
So it looks like each airline has their own dimensional limit for carry-on luggage except for BA who matches the IATA standard.
I discovered that Emirates do allow First Class passengers a second 18 x 14 x 8 briefcase in addition to their one piece hand carry luggage. This is different from UA's 17 x 10 x 9 dimensional limit for personal items.
Feb 23, 2014, 8:35 pm
#774
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,495
Lufthansa: 21.65" x 15.74" x 9.05"
British Airways: 22 x 18 x 10
Air France: 21.65 x 13.77 x 9.8
Emirates: 22 x 15 x 8
So it looks like each airline has their own dimensional limit for carry-on luggage except for BA who matches the IATA standard.
British Airways: 22 x 18 x 10
Air France: 21.65 x 13.77 x 9.8
Emirates: 22 x 15 x 8
So it looks like each airline has their own dimensional limit for carry-on luggage except for BA who matches the IATA standard.
t.Couple that with the points made above that even UA's own rules seem inconsistent and I'm really not sure what to say other than it's going to be a mess. My next UA flight is scheduled for March 1 and my bag fits the sizer...
Feb 23, 2014, 9:28 pm
#775
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: BOS
Programs: MP,MR Silver,Avis
Posts: 848
It also doesn't get placed in the bin "wheels first or wheels out" but gets placed in "sideways" because the height is the middle dimension instead of the longest dimension. It actually leaves more room in the bins if it's sideways. I can put it under some mainline seats. It even fits under most seats on 145s, but often doesn't fit in those bins, so I can't sit in bulkheads on those.
My personal item is exactly the same size as a 10" tablet, so that shouldn't be a problem.
Feb 23, 2014, 10:19 pm
#776
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: UA Silver
Posts: 112
real world experience this morning at PHL: american trunk & case capri II collection 21" fits the larger sizer item. published dimensions indicated it should have fit, but i was a little worried based on my own measurements...but it did fit. was not stuffed full, but did have a little bit of wiggle room...probably could have fit more in.
Feb 24, 2014, 10:17 am
#777
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Jersey Shore/YYZ
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, Hertz PC
Posts: 12,521
I don't think (but what do I know) that GAs are going to focus as much on the personal bags, but those oft-oversized rollaboards. I also carry-on light.
Feb 25, 2014, 1:50 pm
#778
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Rochester, MN
Programs: UA GS, AA PLT, HH Diamond
Posts: 1,437
You can add to the list of bags that make the sizer
Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA
Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA multiwheel
Both were sized in the sizers as SEA yesterday these are the sizers at the check-in counter.
These bags are 15.7 wide but stay just below the top of the sizer.
Rimowa Limbo Cabin IATA
Rimowa Salsa Deluxe IATA multiwheel
Both were sized in the sizers as SEA yesterday these are the sizers at the check-in counter.
These bags are 15.7 wide but stay just below the top of the sizer.
Feb 25, 2014, 8:30 pm
#780
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Carolina
Programs: UA LT Gold, American Kettle, Hertz #1 Presidents Circle, Marriott LT Platinum
Posts: 927
My laptop has a 15" Screen which I run at a 1600x1200 resolution.