Last edit by: WineCountryUA
From MileagePlus Upgrade Awards in the T&Cs
The uncertainty on PS (previously considered BF) segments appears to have been address, as PS flights are not considered Polaris flights
Archive: UA Miles + $ CoPay Upgrade (refunded if no Polaris segments are upgraded) {Archive}
What is the refund policy for MileagePlus Upgrade Awards that do not clear the waitlist?If you request an upgrade using a MileagePlus Upgrade Award, and none of your travel segments are upgraded, then we will automatically redeposit your miles and co-pay. In most instances, a MileagePlus Upgrade Award will be considered used if any segment of your travel is upgraded. However, if your travel includes requested upgrades to United PolarisSM business class or United Polaris first class, and none of the international premium segments are upgraded, then your MileagePlus Upgrade Award will not be considered used, even if you are upgraded to United First® or United Business® on another segment. In these instances, we will fully redeposit your miles and co-pay. When applicable, these refunds will occur automatically seven to 10 days after travel.
Archive: UA Miles + $ CoPay Upgrade (refunded if no Polaris segments are upgraded) {Archive}
UA Miles + $ CoPay Upgrade (refunded if no Polaris segments are upgraded)
#16
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Yes, this is normal. They'll likely eventually figure it out, especially if you clear.
#17
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 101
I have some questions about my MUA. I used miles+copay to request an upgrade from L to PZ. My outbound flight now shows upgrade requested. However, my inbound flight changes, as my original flights LHR-ORD-SAN now becomes LHR-IAD-SAN with IAD-SAN shows CPU requested. My original sectors (LHR-ORD-SAN) are shown at the bottom of the page as waitlisted.
1. Why my inbound flights got changed? I don't think UA asked me about flight change when I applied MUA. Can I ask to fly my original routing?
2. For the new inbound flights, I see option to apply MUA. If I do it, what will happen to my original MUA?
1. Why my inbound flights got changed? I don't think UA asked me about flight change when I applied MUA. Can I ask to fly my original routing?
2. For the new inbound flights, I see option to apply MUA. If I do it, what will happen to my original MUA?
Last edited by RandD; May 25, 2019 at 9:24 am Reason: correct some typos
#18
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Location: SFO
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I have some questions about my MUA. I used miles+copay to request an upgrade from L to PZ. My outbound flight now shows upgrade requested. However, my inbound flight changes, as my original flights LHR-ORD-SAN now becomes LHR-IAD-SAN with IAD-SAN shows CPU requested. My original sectors (LHR-ORD-SAN) are shown at the bottom of the page as waitlisted.
1. Why my inbound flights got changed? I don't think UA asked me about flight change when I applied MUA. Can I ask to fly my original routing? ...
1. Why my inbound flights got changed? I don't think UA asked me about flight change when I applied MUA. Can I ask to fly my original routing? ...
#19
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 101
You are right that there is a change in my original schedule that causes misconnection. I called to get the ticket cleaned up and get my MUA request transfer over. The new schedule looks good and hopefully my MUA clears.
#20
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Like the person above, I had a weird situation with ticketing on United the other day and would love to know what my options are.
My wife and I flew SFO-CLT on a paid First class fare. The return trip was booked in economy connecting through ORD. When I booked, it offered to have me use an MileagePlus Upgrade award for 35k points and $150 for my wife and I to be put on the upgrade list. The person I spoke with on the phone said that this would be refunded if we didnt get upgraded.
We ended up clearing on the upgrade list for our short flight from CLT to ORD, but the ORD to SFO segment (not shockingly) didnt clear. I tried calling support but was put on a 30 minute hold and then the person i was speaking to seemed confused and accused me of sitting in first class because they saw "2A" on my SFO-CLT ticket. I pointed out I was in 17C on the flight in question, the person left for another long hold and never came back. Are we entitled to a refund of any kind or are we just SOL here? Help?
My wife and I flew SFO-CLT on a paid First class fare. The return trip was booked in economy connecting through ORD. When I booked, it offered to have me use an MileagePlus Upgrade award for 35k points and $150 for my wife and I to be put on the upgrade list. The person I spoke with on the phone said that this would be refunded if we didnt get upgraded.
We ended up clearing on the upgrade list for our short flight from CLT to ORD, but the ORD to SFO segment (not shockingly) didnt clear. I tried calling support but was put on a 30 minute hold and then the person i was speaking to seemed confused and accused me of sitting in first class because they saw "2A" on my SFO-CLT ticket. I pointed out I was in 17C on the flight in question, the person left for another long hold and never came back. Are we entitled to a refund of any kind or are we just SOL here? Help?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jul 31, 2019 at 9:47 pm Reason: moved to exisiting thread
#21
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In the future, if you want to avoid this situation, you can call UA and ask to upgrade only the flight(s) you're interested in.
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#24
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Had an interesting experience just now....had a CoPay $175.0 + 17,500 miles for an upgrade to Polaris for EWR - SFO yesterday. Didn't clear and wound up in seat 7E (middle seat in the 78X). No complaints - I played the game and lost - but I called United today to check on my refund/copay, and they said that I took the upgrade? I most certainly didn't, and I remember my numb butt sitting in the middle seat. Had to fight a bit, and was asked if the FA came up to me and told me to switch seats and I didn't take it (that's wild, I wouldn't do that).
End of story - expecting 48-72 hours for my refund to come back via the supervisor. Kind of crazy lol
End of story - expecting 48-72 hours for my refund to come back via the supervisor. Kind of crazy lol
#25
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Had an interesting experience just now....had a CoPay $175.0 + 17,500 miles for an upgrade to Polaris for EWR - SFO yesterday. Didn't clear and wound up in seat 7E (middle seat in the 78X). No complaints - I played the game and lost - but I called United today to check on my refund/copay, and they said that I took the upgrade? I most certainly didn't, and I remember my numb butt sitting in the middle seat. Had to fight a bit, and was asked if the FA came up to me and told me to switch seats and I didn't take it (that's wild, I wouldn't do that).
End of story - expecting 48-72 hours for my refund to come back via the supervisor. Kind of crazy lol
End of story - expecting 48-72 hours for my refund to come back via the supervisor. Kind of crazy lol
#28
Join Date: Mar 2018
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Beware: Systematic failure to refund unused upgrade miles + $
Tried to use upgrade award and was waitlisted. Flew without upgrade. Per usual, UAL took money & miles when I went on waitlist. Month passed, no refund. After 3 emails with "customer service" got this admission: "We are aware of an issue where upgrades have not been getting automatically refunded. Our IT team is working on getting the issue fixed and back to working the way it should. We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you". Think they are working at the same speed they would if system failed to deduct miles and money in the first place? Think they owe me something more than just refunding after my emails what they should have automatically, and for the attempt to keep my money and miles for nothing?
#30
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SFO
Posts: 1,754
Waitlist Upgrade SFO-LAX-PVG
Flying SFO-LAX-PVG and I am in Economy. I can waitlist upgrade with miles for 30K +$600. I am willing to spend the miles and cash.
The upgrade page says:
SFO to LAX |
United First Waitlist Only
LAX to PVG |
United Polaris business Waitlist Only
So I am willing to spend $600 +30k miles for LAX -PVG. Even better if I get upgraded on SFO-LAX and LAX-PVG. What I am not willing to do is spend $600 and 30k miles for first on SFO-LAX and be SOL on LAX-PVG.
How does it work in this scenario ? I know if it does not clear, I get the cash and miles back, but how can I be sure I don't clear only on SFO-LAX ?
The upgrade page says:
SFO to LAX |
United First Waitlist Only
LAX to PVG |
United Polaris business Waitlist Only
So I am willing to spend $600 +30k miles for LAX -PVG. Even better if I get upgraded on SFO-LAX and LAX-PVG. What I am not willing to do is spend $600 and 30k miles for first on SFO-LAX and be SOL on LAX-PVG.
How does it work in this scenario ? I know if it does not clear, I get the cash and miles back, but how can I be sure I don't clear only on SFO-LAX ?
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Nov 23, 2019 at 5:18 pm Reason: Moved to consodidated thread