Anyone Ever Get Turned Down for Global Entry?
#587
Join Date: Jul 2003
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#589
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1
Any experience with administrative removal from a country?
Almost 8 years ago at age 22, I was denied entry and removed from the UK due to overstaying a visa in Italy by about 3 months. I was not allowed to enter the UK since they deemed me an immigration risk because at the time I didn't have a job or ties back to the US (ownership of property, family obligations, etc.).
This technically was not a deportation since that would mean permanent expulsion from the country. I have since been allowed to enter the UK on 3 separate occasions, neither of which required a pre-arranged visa. I do usually get stopped at the border for a few minutes and receive extra questioning, but have always been allowed to enter.
I currently legally reside in Spain and submitted for Global Entry on 7/24. Application still pending. I did not mention the UK issue on my application, which in reading through this forum now seems like it might be a mistake. I had hoped my current residence approval in Spain combined with multiple approvals to visit the UK would have counteracted this long-past offense. I've also traveled frequently and widely (40+ countries) in the years since and have had no immigration issues whatsoever.
Am I completely screwed? Any information on similar experiences would be appreciated!
Almost 8 years ago at age 22, I was denied entry and removed from the UK due to overstaying a visa in Italy by about 3 months. I was not allowed to enter the UK since they deemed me an immigration risk because at the time I didn't have a job or ties back to the US (ownership of property, family obligations, etc.).
This technically was not a deportation since that would mean permanent expulsion from the country. I have since been allowed to enter the UK on 3 separate occasions, neither of which required a pre-arranged visa. I do usually get stopped at the border for a few minutes and receive extra questioning, but have always been allowed to enter.
I currently legally reside in Spain and submitted for Global Entry on 7/24. Application still pending. I did not mention the UK issue on my application, which in reading through this forum now seems like it might be a mistake. I had hoped my current residence approval in Spain combined with multiple approvals to visit the UK would have counteracted this long-past offense. I've also traveled frequently and widely (40+ countries) in the years since and have had no immigration issues whatsoever.
Am I completely screwed? Any information on similar experiences would be appreciated!
#590
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAX
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I'm 28 and have never been convicted of a crime, so like many others on here I could confidently answer "no" on the application.
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I've been arrested twice, once in 2003 when I was 15 for a juvenile battery case that I eventually pleaded no contest in and the case was eventually expunged from my record.
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After he checked the status of the 2009 case he immediately asked me what happened in 2003, which caught me off guard but I answered honestly that it was a juvenile case where the charges were dropped and the case expunged. He said because it was 10+ years ago it would not affect the application (BUT also why would it...an arrest is not a conviction. What happened to innocence until proven guilty???)...and that I would need court documentation to prove the disposition of the 2009 case. He also explained that I might be flagged every time I enter the country because of these arrests, which seemed odd - again, no convictions!
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I'm 28 and have never been convicted of a crime, so like many others on here I could confidently answer "no" on the application.
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I've been arrested twice, once in 2003 when I was 15 for a juvenile battery case that I eventually pleaded no contest in and the case was eventually expunged from my record.
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After he checked the status of the 2009 case he immediately asked me what happened in 2003, which caught me off guard but I answered honestly that it was a juvenile case where the charges were dropped and the case expunged. He said because it was 10+ years ago it would not affect the application (BUT also why would it...an arrest is not a conviction. What happened to innocence until proven guilty???)...and that I would need court documentation to prove the disposition of the 2009 case. He also explained that I might be flagged every time I enter the country because of these arrests, which seemed odd - again, no convictions!
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Expungement allows you to answer on the majority of employment applications that you have not been convicted.
However, when applying for governments job, security clearances or government-issued licenses, certificates, or permits, the conviction will be discovered. In such cases, you should always disclose the initial conviction and its later expungement.
#591
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,141
So when asked if I was arrested I brought up the arrest in 2009 and told the officer that all charges were dropped, but I did not mention the juvenile arrest. After he checked the status of the 2009 case he immediately asked me what happened in 2003, which caught me off guard but I answered honestly that it was a juvenile case where the charges were dropped and the case expunged. He said because it was 10+ years ago it would not affect the application (BUT also why would it...an arrest is not a conviction. What happened to innocence until proven guilty???)...and that I would need court documentation to prove the disposition of the 2009 case. He also explained that I might be flagged every time I enter the country because of these arrests, which seemed odd - again, no convictions!
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Moral of the story - they know everything. Don't hide anything.
And get court paperwork prepared ahead of the interview.
#593
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 41
For anyone who has been denied without even getting an interview, do they mail you anything more detailed than the form denial letter they post to your account?
The only issue I saw on my application is that I have one number wrong on a zip code (zip code I put is still the same town). But isn't that something you'd clear up at the interview? I have zero criminal history, was born and raised in the US and have nothing in my travel history that would be an issue. Do I just go straight to the ombudsman? I legit have no idea what the issue is.
The only issue I saw on my application is that I have one number wrong on a zip code (zip code I put is still the same town). But isn't that something you'd clear up at the interview? I have zero criminal history, was born and raised in the US and have nothing in my travel history that would be an issue. Do I just go straight to the ombudsman? I legit have no idea what the issue is.
#594
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: LAX
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For anyone who has been denied without even getting an interview, do they mail you anything more detailed than the form denial letter they post to your account?
The only issue I saw on my application is that I have one number wrong on a zip code (zip code I put is still the same town). But isn't that something you'd clear up at the interview? I have zero criminal history, was born and raised in the US and have nothing in my travel history that would be an issue. Do I just go straight to the ombudsman? I legit have no idea what the issue is.
The only issue I saw on my application is that I have one number wrong on a zip code (zip code I put is still the same town). But isn't that something you'd clear up at the interview? I have zero criminal history, was born and raised in the US and have nothing in my travel history that would be an issue. Do I just go straight to the ombudsman? I legit have no idea what the issue is.
#595
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Moderator's Note:
Recent posts discussing applying for Global Entry with arrest records were moved to the following thread:
TWA884
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#596
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 33
Review Time
Hello,
I just applied for Global Entry a week ago and am wondering how long until the "Pending Review" status will change. I have lived in 3 different countries - was born in one, left after high school to go to college elsewhere, and five years later ended up in the United States. I'm a citizen now. Will they request background information from all 3 countries? I'm in my 40s now so it's been a long time, but from reading the messages here they are interested even in underage stuff. Anyone got experience with this? I am a bit anxious because suddenly I am remembering all these incidents that could get me denied. When I returned from an international trip two days after 9/11 and was questioned, did I actually screw something up, or were they just being overly cautious? This dog that sniffed something in my carry-on 20 years ago in Australia that turned out to be leftover banana scent, did they take down my information? ...?
Thanks much
I just applied for Global Entry a week ago and am wondering how long until the "Pending Review" status will change. I have lived in 3 different countries - was born in one, left after high school to go to college elsewhere, and five years later ended up in the United States. I'm a citizen now. Will they request background information from all 3 countries? I'm in my 40s now so it's been a long time, but from reading the messages here they are interested even in underage stuff. Anyone got experience with this? I am a bit anxious because suddenly I am remembering all these incidents that could get me denied. When I returned from an international trip two days after 9/11 and was questioned, did I actually screw something up, or were they just being overly cautious? This dog that sniffed something in my carry-on 20 years ago in Australia that turned out to be leftover banana scent, did they take down my information? ...?
Thanks much
#597
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 116
Hello,
I just applied for Global Entry a week ago and am wondering how long until the "Pending Review" status will change. I have lived in 3 different countries - was born in one, left after high school to go to college elsewhere, and five years later ended up in the United States. I'm a citizen now. Will they request background information from all 3 countries? I'm in my 40s now so it's been a long time, but from reading the messages here they are interested even in underage stuff. Anyone got experience with this? I am a bit anxious because suddenly I am remembering all these incidents that could get me denied. When I returned from an international trip two days after 9/11 and was questioned, did I actually screw something up, or were they just being overly cautious? This dog that sniffed something in my carry-on 20 years ago in Australia that turned out to be leftover banana scent, did they take down my information? ...?
Thanks much
I just applied for Global Entry a week ago and am wondering how long until the "Pending Review" status will change. I have lived in 3 different countries - was born in one, left after high school to go to college elsewhere, and five years later ended up in the United States. I'm a citizen now. Will they request background information from all 3 countries? I'm in my 40s now so it's been a long time, but from reading the messages here they are interested even in underage stuff. Anyone got experience with this? I am a bit anxious because suddenly I am remembering all these incidents that could get me denied. When I returned from an international trip two days after 9/11 and was questioned, did I actually screw something up, or were they just being overly cautious? This dog that sniffed something in my carry-on 20 years ago in Australia that turned out to be leftover banana scent, did they take down my information? ...?
Thanks much
I've GE interview in 3 hours from now, but I am focusing on other things & will accept result when I sit in front of CBP interviewer. Getting GE denied is not end of your flying / traveling life. I was arrested once for non-payment of ticket (red signal violation) in student life, case was dismissed without any points on my driving record.
#598
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 33
Don't worry/ get anxious, just focus on other things in life. It can take anywhere 1-2 weeks to get conditional approve as it depends on individual profiles.
I've GE interview in 3 hours from now, but I am focusing on other things & will accept result when I sit in front of CBP interviewer. Getting GE denied is not end of your flying / traveling life. I was arrested once for non-payment of ticket (red signal violation) in student life, case was dismissed without any points on my driving record.
I've GE interview in 3 hours from now, but I am focusing on other things & will accept result when I sit in front of CBP interviewer. Getting GE denied is not end of your flying / traveling life. I was arrested once for non-payment of ticket (red signal violation) in student life, case was dismissed without any points on my driving record.
#599
Moderator: Travel Safety/Security, Travel Tools, California, Los Angeles; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Moderator's Note:
How did it go for you? Coincidentally, I just got my Conditional Approval this morning... Took only 9 days, doubtful they were able to request background info from the 2 other countries in this time. Just have to figure out how to present myself at the interview to clear that last hurdle...
TWA884
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#600
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2
Reply to shadowdog
I have lived in 3 different countries - was born in one, left after high school to go to college elsewhere, and five years later ended up in the United States. I'm a citizen now. Will they request background information from all 3 countries?
When I returned from an international trip two days after 9/11 and was questioned, did I actually screw something up, or were they just being overly cautious? This dog that sniffed something in my carry-on 20 years ago in Australia that turned out to be leftover banana scent, did they take down my information? ...?
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