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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public. SPG will deny member only rates from 3rd party websites.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved. There are a few exceptions where properties impose stricter cancellation term based on competing rates.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)

Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    Differing currencies
    • "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

    Link to T&C
    https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

    Practicalities During/After Stay
    • Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
    • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

    How to view your reservation after BRG has been approved
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.
    • Log into your SPG account
    • Click on your stays to view your current reservation
    • Click on "Set Stay Preferences", then SAVE
    • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How to cancel a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to cancel the reservation

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE
• reload the page and you should now be able to select "apply SNA to this stay" link


POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old May 14, 2017, 4:12 pm
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And if i book the flexible rate with breakfast and they approve the BRG, will the new rate include breakfast?
Yes, but only if the competing rate of 709 AED includes BF as well. Otherwise no.
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Old May 14, 2017, 4:16 pm
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You must book like for like. Competing rate is that from the travel agent. Yes if you book a rate with breakfast and BRG against a rate with breakfast you will get it included. Have you read the wiki ?
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Old May 15, 2017, 12:26 am
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Originally Posted by igor82j
...And if i book the flexible rate with breakfast and they approve the BRG, will the new rate include breakfast?
No.
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Old May 15, 2017, 1:36 am
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Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai
You must book like for like. Competing rate is that from the travel agent. Yes if you book a rate with breakfast and BRG against a rate with breakfast you will get it included. Have you read the wiki ?
Yes, i've read it, but this part is unclear to me...
You say: Yes if you book a rate with breakfast and BRG against a rate with breakfast you will get it included.

But doesn't it contradict to BRG'ing the lowest available SPG rate (i.e. w/o breakfast)?

In my example, whichever rate you take, the competing one is lower than the SPG one. But i don't understand which one i have to BRG against which one, in order to have breakfast included, in the end...
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Old May 15, 2017, 6:52 am
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BRG Terms and Condition

Hi members, I know all of you here are very experienced SPG members.
I have recently submitted claims for BRG , I have chose the 2000 points option.
The BRG Team has advised me that I am unable to get more than 2000 points for the same hotels in the same city for the same week:

Starwood will compare the total room cost of a stay, and multiple claims for a stay consisting of two or more nights in the same week at the same hotel or hotels) in the same geographic location (e.g. city) may be treated as one claim for one stay, even if booked through more than one reservation.
I then asked them if the 1st stay check out on Monday, 2nd stay check in on Monday, both claims I have chosen the 2000 points, I should be able to claim as the T&C stated SAME WEEK.

However, he said that as per dictionary, it is seven consecutive days, it doesn't matter which day because different region have different start of the week.

So, I went on to dictionary.com and it says :

1.
a period of seven successive days, usually understood as beginning with Sunday and ending with Saturday.
2.
a period of seven successive days that begins with or includes an indicated day:
the week of June 3; Christmas week.
So if he insist that SPG T&C is based on English dictionary terms, then it should follow the usually understood as start Sunday , end Saturday? If it is consider as 7 consecutive days regardless which day it start, why do the T&C have to emphasize the word 'SAME WEEK' in there?

I just feel that it doesn't make sense. Honestly, not a big deal for the 2,000 points. It is the matter of fact that this explanation just doesn't sound 100% satisfying.

I would like to know your thoughts about this.

Thank you in advance!
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Old May 15, 2017, 4:16 pm
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Originally Posted by igor82j
Yes, i've read it, but this part is unclear to me...
You say: Yes if you book a rate with breakfast and BRG against a rate with breakfast you will get it included.

But doesn't it contradict to BRG'ing the lowest available SPG rate (i.e. w/o breakfast)?

In my example, whichever rate you take, the competing one is lower than the SPG one. But i don't understand which one i have to BRG against which one, in order to have breakfast included, in the end...
Whatever your competing rate is and includes, you need to beat SPG's lowest but identical rate with inclusions.

So if your competing rate is room only, you compare it against SPG's lowest room only rate. If your competing rate includes breakfast, you must beat SPG's rate with breakfast. If you find competing rates that have both with and without breakfast but is better that SPG's equivalent, you choose which one works better for you (eg. as a platinum, you get full breakfast anyway ... so go for the room only rate).
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Old May 15, 2017, 8:41 pm
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Hotel Name: Le Meridien Mexico City
Arrival Date: May 2017
Departure Date: May 2017
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Classic Suite
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: $117 USD plus taxes
Competing Room Provider: orbitz.com
Competing rate: $109 USD plus taxes
BRG reward: 2K Starpoints
Actual confirmed rate: $109.46 USD plus taxes
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Old May 20, 2017, 3:29 pm
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First timer here, I've read the wiki and just wanted to make sure I did this right.

Booked flexible rate, submitted BRG for a room that did not exist on SPG site. I picked the non-refundable rate on the lower-tier room. I should get matched to that price and retain my same room category as I've read? I also picked the 2k starwood points as well.

Thanks!
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Old May 20, 2017, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by jollywelly
So if he insist that SPG T&C is based on English dictionary terms, then it should follow the usually understood as start Sunday , end Saturday? If it is consider as 7 consecutive days regardless which day it start, why do the T&C have to emphasize the word 'SAME WEEK' in there?

I just feel that it doesn't make sense. Honestly, not a big deal for the 2,000 points. It is the matter of fact that this explanation just doesn't sound 100% satisfying.

I would like to know your thoughts about this.

Thank you in advance!
A week is seven days, ie Wednesday week, Sunday week etc. calendar weeks vary of course, for instance in the Middle East it's a Sunday start, Saturday end, with the weekend being Friday and Saturday.
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Old May 20, 2017, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by atojbk
First timer here, I've read the wiki and just wanted to make sure I did this right.

Booked flexible rate, submitted BRG for a room that did not exist on SPG site. I picked the non-refundable rate on the lower-tier room. I should get matched to that price and retain my same room category as I've read? I also picked the 2k starwood points as well.

Thanks!
Should've submitted your claim without a confirmation and explain in the notes that the room you're seeking to BRG didn't exist on the SPG website.
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Old May 21, 2017, 3:24 am
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Hotel Name: Westin Chosun Seoul
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Room Type: Executive King Deluxe with Breakfast and Club Access
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: KRW 384,199 plus taxes
Competing Room Provider: orbitz.com
Competing rate: USD $282.20 plus taxes
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Old May 21, 2017, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by uxb
Should've submitted your claim without a confirmation and explain in the notes that the room you're seeking to BRG didn't exist on the SPG website.
What would I get out of it if I did it that way?
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Old May 21, 2017, 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by uxb
Should've submitted your claim without a confirmation and explain in the notes that the room you're seeking to BRG didn't exist on the SPG website.
That's not how I do it. I book whatever is available and it always gets approved.
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Old May 23, 2017, 4:50 pm
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I was looking to book a room at the Le Meridien Munich. The lowest rate that the SPG site shows is for a 'Superior Room'.

Other sites have lower rates for a 'Standard Room'

I called the hotel and they say that 'Superior Rooms' and 'Standard Rooms' are one and the same thing.

So is this difference in nomenclature designed by SPG purely to thwart BRG claims?
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Old May 23, 2017, 4:57 pm
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Originally Posted by puchong
I was looking to book a room at the Le Meridien Munich. The lowest rate that the SPG site shows is for a 'Superior Room'.

Other sites have lower rates for a 'Standard Room'

I called the hotel and they say that 'Superior Rooms' and 'Standard Rooms' are one and the same thing.

So is this difference in nomenclature designed by SPG purely to thwart BRG claims?

Have you tried submitting a claim?
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