Mar 21, 2017, 11:15 am
Last edit by: KARFA
See this UK government announcements
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/additional-airline-security-measures-on-some-routes-travelling-to-the-uk
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/additional-hand-luggage-restrictions-on-some-flights-to-the-uk
https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/electronic-devices-and-electrical-items
Flights affected
This will apply to inbound flights (all operators) to the UK from the following locations:
Turkey
Lebanon
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Tunisia
Devices affected
Under the new arrangements, phones, laptops and tablets larger than:
length: 16.0 cm
width: 9.3 cm
depth: 1.5 cm
will not be allowed in the cabin on selected flights to the UK from the countries affected. Most smart phones fall within these limits and will continue to be allowed on board. However, devices larger than these dimensions may not be carried in the cabin and therefore much be placed in checked bags.
(By way of comparison, iPad Mini = 20.32 x 13.48 x 0.61cm. Amazon Kindle = 16.0 x 11.5 x 0.91 cm)
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/additional-airline-security-measures-on-some-routes-travelling-to-the-uk
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/additional-hand-luggage-restrictions-on-some-flights-to-the-uk
https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/electronic-devices-and-electrical-items
Flights affected
This will apply to inbound flights (all operators) to the UK from the following locations:
Turkey
Lebanon
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
Jordan
Tunisia
Devices affected
Under the new arrangements, phones, laptops and tablets larger than:
length: 16.0 cm
width: 9.3 cm
depth: 1.5 cm
will not be allowed in the cabin on selected flights to the UK from the countries affected. Most smart phones fall within these limits and will continue to be allowed on board. However, devices larger than these dimensions may not be carried in the cabin and therefore much be placed in checked bags.
(By way of comparison, iPad Mini = 20.32 x 13.48 x 0.61cm. Amazon Kindle = 16.0 x 11.5 x 0.91 cm)
Electronic Devices Ban on Direct Flights to UK from 6 ME and North African Countries
Mar 21, 2017, 11:17 am
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Great... time to measure the size of my phone
Hope it is not too big for the U.K...
all this security theater will have a economic blowback eventually for the US/UK...
PS. iPhone 7 Plus seems to be 158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm if anyone wonders...
Hope it is not too big for the U.K...all this security theater will have a economic blowback eventually for the US/UK...
PS. iPhone 7 Plus seems to be 158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm if anyone wonders...
Mar 21, 2017, 12:01 pm
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Insurance is for where the liable party can't be made to pay up. In any case, who pays the excess? Why should the passenger be expected to bear any of the loss when the passenger was not at fault and in many cases booked the flight (or even travelled outbound) before the ban came into force?
Mar 21, 2017, 12:10 pm
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At what point will these restrictions be enforced? It's easy enough at airports with security at each gate, but what about the more common setup where security is centralised for all gates? There are two problems with the latter:
- It's impractical for security to screen passengers with different restrictions depending on each passenger's destination.
- Passengers destined for restricted and unrestricted destinations can mingle after security and pass devices between them.
Mar 21, 2017, 12:31 pm
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Mar 21, 2017, 12:50 pm
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The UK has instituted a parallel measure for certain flights to the UK.
See https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...ling-to-the-uk
Joe Brancatelli says:
See https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...ling-to-the-uk
Joe Brancatelli says:
Published a specific size. The UK says items (including phones) larger than 16.0cm x 9.3cm x 1.5cm are prohibited.
+ Narrowed the affected airports and countries. The UK ban covers Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan. It also adds two countries--Lebanon, Tunisia--not covered in the US ban. But the UK clearly exempts the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, which means it does not cover Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways.
+ Covers UK airlines (British Airways, EasyJet, Jet2.com, Monarch, Thomas Cook, Thomson) as well as foreign carriers serving the United Kingdom.
+ Narrowed the affected airports and countries. The UK ban covers Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan. It also adds two countries--Lebanon, Tunisia--not covered in the US ban. But the UK clearly exempts the United Arab Emirates and Qatar, which means it does not cover Emirates, Etihad and Qatar Airways.
+ Covers UK airlines (British Airways, EasyJet, Jet2.com, Monarch, Thomas Cook, Thomson) as well as foreign carriers serving the United Kingdom.
Mar 21, 2017, 12:51 pm
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At what point will these restrictions be enforced? It's easy enough at airports with security at each gate, but what about the more common setup where security is centralised for all gates? There are two problems with the latter:
- It's impractical for security to screen passengers with different restrictions depending on each passenger's destination.
- Passengers destined for restricted and unrestricted destinations can mingle after security and pass devices between them.
Mar 21, 2017, 12:57 pm
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BA has now published its guidance, here. No mention of process for people with hand baggage only fares, but it does suggest that there is some flexibility around rebooking - the wording ("rebook your flight to a later date" implies that they expect this to be reasonably short-lived.
You should either not travel with these larger items, or pack them in your checked baggage. The items must be switched off before being placed in checked baggage.
If you are part-way through your journey (e.g. on a short business trip or holiday) or about to start your journey in one of these countries and feel that you are unable to immediately comply with the new UK government requirements, then we will be able to rebook your flight to a later date so that you are able to meet them. Please contact us to discuss your requirements.
Although the UK Government requirements only apply to flights FROM these countries, you may wish to consider how you pack your hand baggage and checked baggage on your flight from the UK so that you can comply on your return journey to London.
All British Airways flights to/from these countries continue to operate as normal. If you are due to travel, please arrive in good time for the various stages of your journey including check-in, main security search areas and at the boarding gate. You will be subject to additional searches and questions.
It is likely that we will be calling customers to the boarding gate earlier in the listed countries so please do all you can to help us depart the flight punctually.
The safety and security our customers and crew will always be our top priority and we continue to work very closely with governments and airports around the world.
Thank you for your patience and understanding in helping us to comply with the additional UK government security requirements.
If you are part-way through your journey (e.g. on a short business trip or holiday) or about to start your journey in one of these countries and feel that you are unable to immediately comply with the new UK government requirements, then we will be able to rebook your flight to a later date so that you are able to meet them. Please contact us to discuss your requirements.
Although the UK Government requirements only apply to flights FROM these countries, you may wish to consider how you pack your hand baggage and checked baggage on your flight from the UK so that you can comply on your return journey to London.
All British Airways flights to/from these countries continue to operate as normal. If you are due to travel, please arrive in good time for the various stages of your journey including check-in, main security search areas and at the boarding gate. You will be subject to additional searches and questions.
It is likely that we will be calling customers to the boarding gate earlier in the listed countries so please do all you can to help us depart the flight punctually.
The safety and security our customers and crew will always be our top priority and we continue to work very closely with governments and airports around the world.
Thank you for your patience and understanding in helping us to comply with the additional UK government security requirements.
Mar 21, 2017, 1:00 pm
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The UK has instituted a parallel measure for certain flights to the UK.
See https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...ling-to-the-uk
Joe Brancatelli says:
See https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...ling-to-the-uk
Joe Brancatelli says:
Not that I foresee UK carriers flying from the blacklisted countries opting out of the ban; rather I expect voluntary compliance from them.
Mar 21, 2017, 1:23 pm
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Mar 21, 2017, 1:25 pm
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The ban applies to any device larger than 16cm long, 9.3cm wide or 1.5cm deep. It includes smart phones, but most fall inside these limits.
Mar 21, 2017, 1:25 pm
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The wiki already had the list of countries in it. Also the government announcement says all airlines rather than specifying any - albeit I am sure the list from the BBC is one including all airlines flying between those countries and the U.K.
Mar 21, 2017, 1:31 pm
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Fair point. The GOV.UK announcement by Chris Grayling does say
While they called out laptops, tablets and phones explicitly, that blanket line suggests that it is not limited to those specific device categories.
However, devices larger than these dimensions may not be carried in the cabin.