Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Oct 21, 2008, 8:06 am
#1
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Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
We got people in the "post everything on the board" camp, and we got people in the "don't post on the board, since it screws the deal" camp.
We've recently seen several threads dealing with "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals which were not in line with how the Mileage Run forum is supposed to operate (which can be accessed at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454485).
In theory, we could start threads dealing with the "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals on almost *each and every* discount fare across the Atlantic there is, since virtually 99% of the time, you can generate a "deal" that leaves certain surcharges off if you know how to do it.
This thread serves as some sort of "lounge thread" where anything related to "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals can go - which is beyond the accustomed way how this forum works. Hopefully this "lounge" thread will give those who would still like to discuss these types of deal an ample place to do so - while the "Mileage Run Deals" forum is not being cluttered with information that many Flyertalkers feel that is not appropriate and in line with how this forum works.
If you want to play games, then play your games within the confined enviroment of this thread - please refrain from starting new threads to play those games.
Kind Regards
rcs85551
Moderator, Mileage Run forums
Below are the new posting rules for the Trick It Thread. They will also be posted as a Sticky in the Discussion Forum and in the first post of this thread.
Rules of Posting in the Trick It Thread:
1. Adhere to these rules or your post will be deleted without comment.
2. The current naming convention of this thread is as follows:
C1 = North America
C1.5 = Caribbean, Central America and Mexico including Bermuda and Bahamas
C2 = Europe
C2.5 = Middle East, including Israel and Egypt
C3 = Asia
C4 = South America
C4a = Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru
C4b = Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Surinam, Guyana, Paraguay and Uruguay
C5 = Africa
C6 = Australia, New Zealand, and the Oceania range
Directional additions such as n, s, e, and w are allowed to narrow an area.
The naming convention created by Raffles Longhaul is also acceptable.
3. Code any “tricks”.
4. Do not post screenshots of your “tricks” or outside links to images of any sort.
5. Do not code your questions. No one will be able to answer them.
6. Violation of these rules will subject you to discipline.
7. Review FlyerTalk Rules 7, 10, 12, and 18 of the FlyerTalk Rules prior to posting. You can find the Rules here: http://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules.php
We've recently seen several threads dealing with "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals which were not in line with how the Mileage Run forum is supposed to operate (which can be accessed at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=454485).
In theory, we could start threads dealing with the "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals on almost *each and every* discount fare across the Atlantic there is, since virtually 99% of the time, you can generate a "deal" that leaves certain surcharges off if you know how to do it.
This thread serves as some sort of "lounge thread" where anything related to "trick it / negotiate it" type of deals can go - which is beyond the accustomed way how this forum works. Hopefully this "lounge" thread will give those who would still like to discuss these types of deal an ample place to do so - while the "Mileage Run Deals" forum is not being cluttered with information that many Flyertalkers feel that is not appropriate and in line with how this forum works.
If you want to play games, then play your games within the confined enviroment of this thread - please refrain from starting new threads to play those games.
Kind Regards
rcs85551
Moderator, Mileage Run forums
Below are the new posting rules for the Trick It Thread. They will also be posted as a Sticky in the Discussion Forum and in the first post of this thread.
Rules of Posting in the Trick It Thread:
1. Adhere to these rules or your post will be deleted without comment.
2. The current naming convention of this thread is as follows:
C1 = North America
C1.5 = Caribbean, Central America and Mexico including Bermuda and Bahamas
C2 = Europe
C2.5 = Middle East, including Israel and Egypt
C3 = Asia
C4 = South America
C4a = Venezuela, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru
C4b = Chile, Bolivia, Brazil, Argentina, Surinam, Guyana, Paraguay and Uruguay
C5 = Africa
C6 = Australia, New Zealand, and the Oceania range
Directional additions such as n, s, e, and w are allowed to narrow an area.
The naming convention created by Raffles Longhaul is also acceptable.
3. Code any “tricks”.
4. Do not post screenshots of your “tricks” or outside links to images of any sort.
5. Do not code your questions. No one will be able to answer them.
6. Violation of these rules will subject you to discipline.
7. Review FlyerTalk Rules 7, 10, 12, and 18 of the FlyerTalk Rules prior to posting. You can find the Rules here: http://www.flyertalk.com/help/rules.php
Last edited by Pat89339; Sep 30, 2016 at 6:13 pm Reason: Add new posting rules
Jan 1, 2015, 3:32 am
#2
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 758
AA fare and IB fare.
example:
NYC-MIL RT non stop - 236€ AI
Lower price are possible but I'm lazy :/
Jan 1, 2015, 9:08 am
#3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: MHG
Posts: 168
Can't understand why that inventory you found in the matrix doesn't show up on your OTA even though you're feeding it segment by segment? Questioning your senses and abilities because your fellow dumpsters get the result you're looking for? Dynamic pricing might be the cause. After an involuntary browser reset, Orbitz' view on me apparently changed from dumpster to dumbster: $350 for a Sushi Roll that can be had for $160?! — A switch to incognito mode got things back in order. And so did the use of a VPN connection.
https://www.petsymposium.org/2014/papers/Vissers.pdf
Happy New Year — and safe travels!
https://www.petsymposium.org/2014/papers/Vissers.pdf
Happy New Year — and safe travels!
Jan 1, 2015, 11:26 am
#6
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Germany / Thailand
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Is BA dumpable ?
Is BA dumpable ( from DE/BE/NL/LX ) to TH or HKG ?
I know one from C2(SW), but too far for positioning.
Looking for departure end of JUN, when the SQ deal not works.
I know one from C2(SW), but too far for positioning.
Looking for departure end of JUN, when the SQ deal not works.
Jan 1, 2015, 11:56 am
#7
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 26
QR announced routes ex-A*M*S
Hi guys, newbie here, so please excuse me if i posted this in the wrong thread, but...
QR has announced it's gonna open a new route to a*m*s, capitol of cheese weed, windmills and tulips.
Anybody discovered good on the new route yet?
QR has announced it's gonna open a new route to a*m*s, capitol of cheese weed, windmills and tulips.
Anybody discovered good on the new route yet?
Jan 1, 2015, 1:58 pm
#10
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Location: Florida
Programs: UA 2MM
Posts: 1,917
Jan 2, 2015, 8:37 am
#13
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PRG
Programs: OW Sapphire, Herz Gold, Regus Businessworld Gold
Posts: 169
The other choice is to avoid not quite cheap and practical positional flight to the desert pyramids and fly from the glass pyramid to enjoy the klong cruise for $270 (could be less?).
Jan 2, 2015, 12:10 pm
#14
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: MP Platinum
Posts: 20
I have a great candidate fare: WAS - DXB, *A, $90 each way base fare with sat night stay but the fat is $500+. Despite my best efforts i can't seem to cut any of it.
Unwittingly in my hours of searching- I did find a way to cut the ST fat on the same significantly with a 3x in C2. ST does me no good but happy to trade that info.
I realize I'm still a newbie but would appreciate any pointers. My novice reading of the *A fare rules seems to suggest that no 3x might work as the fat is added for all trips originating in C1. If anyone is willing to confirm even this it will at least help me put the pencil down.
Unwittingly in my hours of searching- I did find a way to cut the ST fat on the same significantly with a 3x in C2. ST does me no good but happy to trade that info.
I realize I'm still a newbie but would appreciate any pointers. My novice reading of the *A fare rules seems to suggest that no 3x might work as the fat is added for all trips originating in C1. If anyone is willing to confirm even this it will at least help me put the pencil down.
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