Mar 6, 2016, 10:33 pm
Last edit by: stephem
Fare Rules:
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Fare basis code AA J PEN-YVR
Code:
FLIGHT APPLICATION
BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 5100 THROUGH 5249.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 6075 THROUGH 6124.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR BUT NOT ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING AA FLIGHTS 7950 THROUGH 7969.
ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
STANDBY NOT PERMITTED.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
NOTE -
TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 3 DAYS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 24 HOURS.
RESERVATIONS BOOKED 24 HOURS OR LESS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE MUST BE TICKETED WITHIN 3 HOURS.
STOPOVERS
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT APPLY UNLIMITED STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS FOR ONE WAY FARES
ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ADJACENT
LINE OF FLIGHT FARE COMPONENTS ONLY. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA
THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
END-ON-END NOTE -
ADD-ONS PERMITTED
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN RULE
7100/8005 IN TARIFF
ATMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
IPRA - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
IPRP - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRPC - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 VIA PAC
IPRSAAS - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATL
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATL
IPRSAPN - AREA 1-SOUTH WEST PACIFIC VIA PAC AND N.
AMERICA
OR RULE 7100/8005 IN TARIFF
PAMAAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 3 VIA PAC.
SURCHARGES BETWEEN CANADA AND MALAYSIA
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 02.
A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ INFANTS.
2/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
3/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
4/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR US.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR AY.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR BA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR JL.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA OR QF.
THERE IS NO CHARGE PER FARE COMPONENT FOR TRANSPACIFIC
SECTORS.
NOTE -
YR FEE MAY APPLY
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
AND - ORIGINATING MALAYSIA -
A SURCHARGE OF USD 134.00 PER FARE COMPONENT WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
NOTE -
THIS SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING ON FREE TICKETS.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - AN AIRPORT/TERMINAL SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
COUPON WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL IN CANADA.
NOTE -
THIS NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLIES TO ADT/CNN
AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
AND - A SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 PER COUPON WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM
HKG AIRPORT.
NOTE -
THIS SECURITY SURCHARGE APPLIES TO -
1/ PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITING HONG KONG.
2/ PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON INDUSTRY/AGENCY
DISCOUNT /ID/AD/ TICKETS.
3/ PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
SALES RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN VENEZUELA/ARGENTINA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
CARIBBEAN / CENTRAL AND SOUTH AMERICA - AA WILL
ASSESS A USD 25.00 FEE ON ANY UNTICKETED
RESERVATION NOT CANCELED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 3
ORIGINATING AREA 3 -
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
FOR J- TYPE FARES
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR
OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER.
NOTE -
WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
PORTIONS.
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-14 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
AGENT DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE -
DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
THIS RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL ON OTHER
AIRLINE OPERATED CODE SHARE FLIGHTS.
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AA. SALE IS RESTRICTED TO
SPECIFIC AGENTS.
FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY TRAVEL
AGENTS.
PASSENGER OCCUPYING TWO SEATS. ID REQUIRED - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
NOTE -
APPLICATION---
FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
SENIOR CITIZEN 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED - NO DISCOUNT.
NOTE -
RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
[FARE GONE] J PEN-YVR $1758CDN o/w One World and friends. F option available.
Mar 5, 2016, 6:47 pm
#33
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Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 16,093
I changed my trip from CX metal codeshare into actual AA metal flight so that I can credit them to AS. CX Biz is really not that much better than AA Biz these days given that AA has improved their hard product significantly while CX Biz class catering on long-haul route is not exactly superb. There is also the possibility of upgrading to F cheaply if on AA metal, so there is that. If AA ends up running some mileage promotion, codeshare flights on CX are usually excluded so all things considered, better to stick with AA flights.
Mar 5, 2016, 6:59 pm
#34
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
Mar 5, 2016, 7:09 pm
#35
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If you are EXP and book to fly this before June 30 you can get two long hauls on JAL with AA numbers, so that's an extra 24k bonus RDMs, for a total of 50k RDMs. (Long hauls on CX even with AA numbers are excluded from the long haul promo). All the business flights book into J, so that's 3x EQMs, close or more than 30k EQMs.
The J fare PEN-YVR is available for as little as $1,300, but with two long layovers, especially if you want it all on AA numbers.
The J fare PEN-YVR is available for as little as $1,300, but with two long layovers, especially if you want it all on AA numbers.
Last edited by nk15; Mar 5, 2016 at 7:14 pm
Mar 5, 2016, 7:09 pm
#36
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 356
Is there a trick to get AA to force flights on JL?
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
I'm able to price out on google, then re-direct to AA.com. But it prices in USD. I'm in Canada and want to avoid that as you get dinged with the FX fees.
If I go to AA.com and sign-in, all the pricing is in CAD. But...all I get are CX/AA flight options. Not bad, but I want to fly JAL via ORD or JFK.
Tried doing multi-city, but could only get the JAL at cheapest fares with ORD-YYZ adding a detour via CLT. My wife won't go for that as she's already testy on the existing routing.
NEVERMIND...ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION. IN ADVANCED SEARCH JUST SELECT AA FLIGHTS. IT'll CODE EVERYTHING TO AA, INCLUDING ON PARTNER METAL.
Mar 5, 2016, 7:34 pm
#37
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Also, many combos seem to have a 1-hour connection in KUL, which I would assume that should be rather avoided.
I am surprised no blogger has posted this yet, I am guessing it is too complex and esoteric for their taste, lol...
Mar 5, 2016, 7:39 pm
#38
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Posts: 16,093
If you are EXP and book to fly this before June 30 you can get two long hauls on JAL with AA numbers, so that's an extra 24k bonus RDMs, for a total of 50k RDMs. (Long hauls on CX even with AA numbers are excluded from the long haul promo). All the business flights book into J, so that's 3x EQMs, close or more than 30k EQMs.
Originally Posted by American Airlines
We’re extending our 2015 American Airlines AAdvantage® bonus miles promotion into 2016. You can earn a bonus on top of your base mileage, class of service bonus and elite status bonus when you fly on a purchased First or Business Class ticket from now until the changes to earning award miles go into effect in the second half of 2016.
Blogger are mostly interested in mistake fares so that they can package them into "amazing fares". This is not a mistake fare. They also want to be able to insert viable credit card sales pitch into their blogs and I think this deal is a little hard to sell given that it involves some rather complex code sharing, which is almost always complicated and problematic.
Mar 5, 2016, 7:49 pm
#39
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Nevermind, found it for $3814 all in F HKG-LAX with CX.
Last edited by rbAA; Mar 6, 2016 at 12:50 am
Mar 5, 2016, 8:27 pm
#43
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 42
Once ticketed what happens if you want to change travel date? I know it is refundable but other than getting my money back would it be possible to change travel date (same routing) and still keep the ticket price? I am thinking of speculatively booking several tickets.
Mar 5, 2016, 8:32 pm
#44
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 356
I personally think that a $3,200 premium fare MR without at least 3 days on the ground is not worth it, no matter how many EQMs or rdms, but this may vary based on individual circumstances and preferences.
Also, many combos seem to have a 1-hour connection in KUL, which I would assume that should be rather avoided.
I am surprised no blogger has posted this yet, I am guessing it is too complex and esoteric for their taste, lol...
Also, many combos seem to have a 1-hour connection in KUL, which I would assume that should be rather avoided.
I am surprised no blogger has posted this yet, I am guessing it is too complex and esoteric for their taste, lol...
really want to try jal first class
Mar 5, 2016, 8:34 pm
#45
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 356
Once ticketed what happens if you want to change travel date? I know it is refundable but other than getting my money back would it be possible to change travel date (same routing) and still keep the ticket price? I am thinking of speculatively booking several tickets.