Amanresorts Thread 2012 (Started by Amanjunkie)
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conference calls >
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...m+dlf+earnings
May 31 2012 - Q4 2012
mentions Q1/Q2
aman >
1700 crore = $306mm
in general >
Feb 13 2012 - Q3 2012
mentions Q4/Q1
in general timing including aman >
aman >
(looking at posts/links on this forum)
(im not going to do much digging through old posts)
Nov 11 2011 Q2 2012 mentions aman and foreign currency debt on pages 3 and 7
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%...m+dlf+earnings
May 31 2012 - Q4 2012
mentions Q1/Q2
aman >
I think for all of the three large transactions that there has been a lot of discussions and also a lot of speculation in the marketplace. We hope to close all those three within the first half of this year. In some cases it could be funding, which may go ahead, but at least from announcement [indiscernible] (7:16) where we enter into definitive agreements is within the first half of this year.
For Aman and – I don't have the exact number, but I think overall between these two assets we have about Rs.1,700 crores, Rs.1,800 crores as total debt between [indiscernible] (43:10) and Aman, Rs.1,700 crores odd. The [indiscernible] (43:14) there is no debt on – there is no external debt on [indiscernible] (43:17).
For Aman and – I don't have the exact number, but I think overall between these two assets we have about Rs.1,700 crores, Rs.1,800 crores as total debt between [indiscernible] (43:10) and Aman, Rs.1,700 crores odd. The [indiscernible] (43:14) there is no debt on – there is no external debt on [indiscernible] (43:17).
in general >
any color or clarity on what those assets are beyond the three, which is the Mumbai land, [ph] the windmills (49:18) and the Aman?
we've right now chosen to sort of put in the public domain [indiscernible] (49:30) right now actively working to transact. It will just unnecessarily sort of distract and defocus the [ph] entire detail (49:39). So right now we just focus on the three major and a couple of minor [indiscernible] (49:45) that are out there in the market where active live discussions are taking place. So is there [indiscernible] (49:52)? The answer is yes. Are we right now ready to share [indiscernible] (49:57)? Not sure.
probably we may not also share it, because it actually cause a lot of distraction
If we close these transactions, we don't try to share it right now.
we've right now chosen to sort of put in the public domain [indiscernible] (49:30) right now actively working to transact. It will just unnecessarily sort of distract and defocus the [ph] entire detail (49:39). So right now we just focus on the three major and a couple of minor [indiscernible] (49:45) that are out there in the market where active live discussions are taking place. So is there [indiscernible] (49:52)? The answer is yes. Are we right now ready to share [indiscernible] (49:57)? Not sure.
probably we may not also share it, because it actually cause a lot of distraction
If we close these transactions, we don't try to share it right now.
mentions Q4/Q1
in general timing including aman >
three or four major asset sales that we have been talking about, and if we're able to close those in the next one to two quarters, we should get a one shot reduction in debt of between Rs 4,000 crores to Rs 5,000 crores. It can be argued that we've been saying this for one year, it hasn't happened. The flip side is, I mean, all of us know the Metro headwinds that has been there, so the Aman business or the [indiscernible] (12:18) in the market or the wind farm, unfortunately in today's circumstances these are taking longer to close and unfortunately one can't [ph] sign 12:25 them to a quarter. But we do believe that once this Rs 5,000-odd crores comes into the business across, hopefully in the next six odd months
Aman Resorts, what exactly is delaying sale process?
Well, I think you can very well see what the global impacts are or what's happening in Europe. And we – strategic guy is waiting and want some kind of stability in those markets before he can take a final call. So, it's more of a wait and watch. We are in dialog with few of the interested parties. The dialog is very deep. And as things start to more stabilize in those markets, hopefully I think we should be able to close the transaction soon.
we are in dialogue with many of the parties, both in the hospitality space...hopeful of concluding these transactions within this quarter or early next quarter. So that is what we are really targeting. What else – I mean, I can't really give any other comfort than saying that these are the third-party interested in purchasing these assets.
I don't know where you're getting your data from. They are not being three years in pipeline. The Aman transaction that we're talking about got only activated in May of last year, or May of 2011. That is the time when it really got activated. It went into the marketplace with number of interested parties only in June-July.
Well, I think you can very well see what the global impacts are or what's happening in Europe. And we – strategic guy is waiting and want some kind of stability in those markets before he can take a final call. So, it's more of a wait and watch. We are in dialog with few of the interested parties. The dialog is very deep. And as things start to more stabilize in those markets, hopefully I think we should be able to close the transaction soon.
we are in dialogue with many of the parties, both in the hospitality space...hopeful of concluding these transactions within this quarter or early next quarter. So that is what we are really targeting. What else – I mean, I can't really give any other comfort than saying that these are the third-party interested in purchasing these assets.
I don't know where you're getting your data from. They are not being three years in pipeline. The Aman transaction that we're talking about got only activated in May of last year, or May of 2011. That is the time when it really got activated. It went into the marketplace with number of interested parties only in June-July.
(im not going to do much digging through old posts)
Nov 11 2011 Q2 2012 mentions aman and foreign currency debt on pages 3 and 7
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Thanks for all the info, folks. Was at Aman Summer Palace recently and discussing with management there. That property, for obvious reasons, gets an unusually high amount of domestic wealthy clientele.
In all of this discussion, has there been any mention of AZ's personal plans? e.g. starting something new?
Is it also possible they would sell only some of the properties and/or the Aman brand? Meaning perhaps keeping a few of the properties (say, puri, pulo, whatever) and then rebranding them something else assuming the Aman brand goes with the sale and the majority of the properties?
Just brainstorming the options. Obviously the lump buyout is the simplest and perhaps most likely scenario. I also find it to be the most depressing and wonder what AZ has planned, if anything, for the future beyond..
In all of this discussion, has there been any mention of AZ's personal plans? e.g. starting something new?
Is it also possible they would sell only some of the properties and/or the Aman brand? Meaning perhaps keeping a few of the properties (say, puri, pulo, whatever) and then rebranding them something else assuming the Aman brand goes with the sale and the majority of the properties?
Just brainstorming the options. Obviously the lump buyout is the simplest and perhaps most likely scenario. I also find it to be the most depressing and wonder what AZ has planned, if anything, for the future beyond..
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china brand (thanks deer and gallivanters) >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...t18659798.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...t18949998.html
zecha on board of qatar sovereign hotel fund (thanks paul2) >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post17731005
http://www.katarahospitality.com/abo...ent/our-board/
3 out of 5 other board (excluding top 2) were brought in at same time (so 4 out of 6 total)
one old post >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post18086332
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...t18659798.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...t18949998.html
zecha on board of qatar sovereign hotel fund (thanks paul2) >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post17731005
http://www.katarahospitality.com/abo...ent/our-board/
Adrian Zecha has been a member of the Board of Directors since September 2011
He was a founder or co-founder of the following companies: Amanresorts, Beaufort Hotels, Regent International Hotels, General Hotels Management, while being a shareholder in Orient Express Hotels and Southern Pacific Hotels Corporation.
He was a founder or co-founder of the following companies: Amanresorts, Beaufort Hotels, Regent International Hotels, General Hotels Management, while being a shareholder in Orient Express Hotels and Southern Pacific Hotels Corporation.
one old post >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post18086332
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http://twitter.com/Gallivanters/stat...69957458153472
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...13_746966.html
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...13_746966.html
In an interview to CNBC-TV18’s Nayantara Rai, Ashok Tyagi, chief financial officer of DLF speaks about the company’s furture.
On the balanced transactions, we are clearly in very close and serious discussions with the buyers, but it will be very difficult for me to pinpoint an exact date or a specific time frame. In this financial year [FY2013/FY2012-2013 ends mar 31 2013] we should be able to close all of these transactions
On the balanced transactions, we are clearly in very close and serious discussions with the buyers, but it will be very difficult for me to pinpoint an exact date or a specific time frame. In this financial year [FY2013/FY2012-2013 ends mar 31 2013] we should be able to close all of these transactions
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in addition to above official here is latest unoffical >
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...ep_748362.html
http://www.justluxe.com/travel/spa/feature-958245.php
giri - 4th pic is great, new i think
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...ep_748362.html
may finalise Aman Resorts' sale for Rs 1,700 crore by mid or end of September
giri - 4th pic is great, new i think
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im getting tired of "sources" but just to be up to date >
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...ep_748362.html
"may finalise Aman Resorts' sale for Rs 1,700 crore by mid or end of September"
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...ep_748362.html
"may finalise Aman Resorts' sale for Rs 1,700 crore by mid or end of September"
During Amankila celebrations, ' final discussions ' were in full swing
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new at kila - full board and daily 90 min yoga
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
double occupancy - additional $62.50pppn (single occupancy - no additional)
ruya http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
giri
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
gani http://www.amanresorts.com/amangani/exclusives.aspx
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
double occupancy - additional $62.50pppn (single occupancy - no additional)
ruya http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
giri
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
http://www.amanresorts.com/exclusive...&LangType=1033
gani http://www.amanresorts.com/amangani/exclusives.aspx
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latest conference call
Aug 7 2012 - Q1 2013
timing incl aman >
Aug 7 2012 - Q1 2013
timing incl aman >
we are at advanced stages of discussions and – on progress on all of those...we continue to say very optimistic that we should be able to close some of these big tickets deals this year...by March 31, 2013.
all of these deals are long cycle time deals, given the quantum of the money and the complexities involved
is there any particular assets still which is going faster or slower?
obviously, they are, but honestly I don't think that information honestly that is worth sharing right now because these things change by the week
Every week is a different story
all of these deals are long cycle time deals, given the quantum of the money and the complexities involved
is there any particular assets still which is going faster or slower?
obviously, they are, but honestly I don't think that information honestly that is worth sharing right now because these things change by the week
Every week is a different story
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Anybody know who the Ruya GM is?
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A good development to make it "all inclusive". With the occasional bottle of Champagne thrown in for regulars the only thing they should do now is to quote NET prices and stop the tax and service charge game.
Europeans are used to be quoted NET rates and they have to adapt to theirs guests and not vice versa.
Europeans are used to be quoted NET rates and they have to adapt to theirs guests and not vice versa.