Hyatt Discount Codes (many are Corporate)

any recent experience with PH Sydney? What codes did you use?

Why would one pay rack rate?

Worse case is 'walk up' rate- what a room would cost to book right then.

Or you walk away, right? For example, lets say you reserve at $150. The room is guaranteed. You show. They question. They say the rate is 500. Can they charge you $150 if you decline the higher rate? (you DID show)

IMO most terms and conditions are silent on this issue ..

You will be asked for ID if you use corporate codes. Get ready to have your corporate tags or business cards handed over for verification.

To avoid having the hotel charge you with attempted fraud.

My point is when you say "no, I dont work for IBM, why?"

and they say 'well you booked an IBM rate'

and you say "oh, ....then how much is it?"

and they say "$500"

and you say 'no thank you'

What is their recourse? Can they charge you the $150 even thought you were a 'show'? can they force you to pay more than you agreed to pay?

SOME properties actually address this in the terms and conditons- if you book a room that you do not quantify for, the charge will be the 'then available' rate. But many are silent.

Oh please.

I guess you work in the legal field, huh?

Booking a rate for which one doesn't qualify is arguable at best, unethical to most and fraudulent at worst.

Maintaining that one is blameless when the rate is challenged is beyond the pale.

I'm surprised that no one has stated this

but thank you for taking this stance

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I disagree

I work for a fortune 200 company; we use concur; I was looking for our company codes to all the chains we had agreements

I called HR (they thought I was nuts)
I called Travel Accounting (ditto)
I called Travel (call the travel agent that runs concur)
I called travel agent (no idea, they just run it thru the system)

I finally over time went to each chain and went in and showed my ID and asked them what is the code for this company?

That is how I got the codes for my own company

NO it is not easy to do

Interesting that you don't think you're going to be charged the cancellation fee...

You also don't seem to understand that each corporate receives reports of those who use their code. If they query your stay, Hyatt will investigate and they have your credit card details and contact information.

At the PH SYD using a large corporation's code that wasn't settled by account during the stay would arouse suspicion in itself. I do recall guest's paying RACK when it was discovered during their stay.

If you have no moral compass, ponder on that.

I just called up hyatt and said "I work for XXXXXX and I'm tired of messing with our corporate internal site, can I please have the code so I can use your website?"


Took 2 seconds.

One more comment here - the company could give two poots that you use their codes - in fact they would prefer you do as you get more volume onto their numbers allowing for higher negotiations with hyatt or individual hotels. They arent subsidizing these rates so this is nothing more than volume tracking for volume discounts.

My company (large fortune 100 company) recently had a note in travel that asked for employees to stay at a certain hotel in the N.Bay because they were coming up for negotiation to everyone booking in the bay area.

A simplistic generalization. Most companies definitely do care that the integrity of their rate programs is maintained. Anyone who believes that companies like IBM and the large defense contractors don't care is rationalizing bad behavior.

The most obvious benefit of controlling rate usage is last minute bookings. Very few corporate rate programs have Last Room Availability (LRA). If an investment bank can't get a merger team into it's contracted hotel because its rate has been sold out to unaffiliated "consultants," there would certainly be repercussions.

OK, I know people on the internet need to judge... lets get past that and actually get to the issue.

What will they charge you? It is not like there is a legal statue that says "if you attempt fraud they charge you whatever they want"

There are two SEPARATE issues: is it fraud. Maybe. Lets even say yes to get past the chest thumping and moral superiority nonsense.

What can the desk clerk/hotel charge you if you refuse the upcharge?

They can SAY 'you pay RACK'...and I submit, unless there is text in the terms and conditions under which you gave them a deposit, that you are not obligated to pay rack if you choose not to stay. Furthermore, can they take the deposit, refuse you a room, and keep the deposit even if you showed up? You arent a no-show...

I submit there is a legal vacuum around this specific issue in many terms and conditions.

1. The terms and conditions state you will pay for the room if you no show. Period.

The terms and conditions do not (usually) say "If you are not qualified for the rate you reserve, your rate will be the rack rate"

On RARE occasion Ive seen "if you do not qualify for the booked rate, you will pay the walk up rate" in the advance terms and conditions. Which is not RACK.

Happened to me once in PHX with a rate I had at 249. they wanted $480. I sat on a chair in the lobby, booked a room for $339 on my ipad. Desk clerk said "Glad you were able to book that, they make us charge that to walk ups".

2. The idea that a corp would see a night hotel stay somewhere, flag it, then have the hotel come back to a guest either during the stay or weeks/months/years later is truly laughable

3. The Park Hyatt SYD is not really a useful example, is it? I have no doubt their processes, checks and policies are strict.

4. You worry about your moral compass, I'll worry about mine. How I deal with PEOPLE is entirely different than my moral feelings towards CORPORATIONS.



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And if the reservation's cancellation terms are to cancel 4PM the day prior, you don't think the hotel will charge the card they have on file if you walk out?

You seem to have a very narrow view of what the property can actually do.