As of today...How far are you from requalifying?
#93
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH Silver, MR Plat Prem & LT Plat, Hyatt Plat,SPG Plat, Hertz PC, National EE, UA 1K
Posts: 3,405
Burning down points. 1 points stay for 2 nights. Have 11 nights booked through 12/31. Have chosen Accor and Marriott (lifetime plat) for my 150-170 nights this year.
#94
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Minnesota
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,101
I'm on track for 30 nights by end of June and then will have to stretch to get 60 nights by end of the year. I can do it but its starting to make me think of alternative programs. I really, really dislike that my full points redemption stays don't count towards my 60 night requalification. That might be the deal breaker for me with Hyatt....
#95
Join Date: Mar 2015
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, SPG Plat, UA GS
Posts: 238
The bonuses for those staying 70-100 nights far outweigh the negative changes
#96
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 905
20/60 with forward bookings to 47/60. I'm a bit torn: experience in the new program has been good but finding those extra 13 nights could mean losing SPG PLT 75 ( maybe that doesn't mean much as a LT PLT but in the merged entity who knows).
#97
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
Except they may have not factored in that some of the 25 stay crowd actually spent as much, or more, on some of their stays than the road warriors who spend more per night but less overall.
My spa bills alone would be for nearly a another week at a hotel.
So while I may have done mattress runs to get to the 25 stays, overall, I spent as much, if not more, than the road warriors.
My spa bills alone would be for nearly a another week at a hotel.
So while I may have done mattress runs to get to the 25 stays, overall, I spent as much, if not more, than the road warriors.
#98
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Except they may have not factored in that some of the 25 stay crowd actually spent as much, or more, on some of their stays than the road warriors who spend more per night but less overall.
My spa bills alone would be for nearly a another week at a hotel.
So while I may have done mattress runs to get to the 25 stays, overall, I spent as much, if not more, than the road warriors.
My spa bills alone would be for nearly a another week at a hotel.
So while I may have done mattress runs to get to the 25 stays, overall, I spent as much, if not more, than the road warriors.
#99
FlyerTalk Evangelist, Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, UA Silver, dirt elsewhere
Posts: 46,919
My point was that if they are going after the road warriors, well, I probably spend more or as much as they do. So they've excluded people from their target market based solely on nights spent in a hotel.
Quite frankly, there are a lot of $100 range HPs that would get them Globalist without a whole lot of spend. In some places, there are sub-$100 per nights at certain times of the year.
So who do they really want? People who spend in the $7k a year vicinity and get 60 nights, or those who spend 35 or 40 nights a year and spend in the $10k+ vicinity because they're in higher cost properties and eat in the restaurants and use the spa?
Quite frankly, there are a lot of $100 range HPs that would get them Globalist without a whole lot of spend. In some places, there are sub-$100 per nights at certain times of the year.
So who do they really want? People who spend in the $7k a year vicinity and get 60 nights, or those who spend 35 or 40 nights a year and spend in the $10k+ vicinity because they're in higher cost properties and eat in the restaurants and use the spa?
#100
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
which hotel program would your 25 stays and high spa bills qualify you for top tier? I can't think of any. With that said, I really feel like this is overall a move to spend based tiering like we see in airlines so perhaps eventually your class of spend will qualify you. To be fair, Hyatt had the lowest bar of entry (yes limited reach) of any major program by a long shot.
It will likely change, but hasn't yet, so your premise is a bit odd.
#101
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
My point is that the 25 stay is effectively done across all major programs so it's not even an option elsewhere. Hyatts just merging with the rest of the herd. So someone complaining about its loss is sort of moot cause they're not going to get top tier treatment anywhere else for that stay pattern.
If by some miracle marriot takes the 25 night spg had there will be a bunch of people flocking there. I doubt it will happen when the programs completely merge.
In the end of the day, eventually it will settle out to total spend with the programs like the airlines then we can all stop bickering about who's stays are more valuable. It'll be either you spend 20k/yr or you don't.
#102
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
#103
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,990
My point was that if they are going after the road warriors, well, I probably spend more or as much as they do. So they've excluded people from their target market based solely on nights spent in a hotel.
Quite frankly, there are a lot of $100 range HPs that would get them Globalist without a whole lot of spend. In some places, there are sub-$100 per nights at certain times of the year.
So who do they really want? People who spend in the $7k a year vicinity and get 60 nights, or those who spend 35 or 40 nights a year and spend in the $10k+ vicinity because they're in higher cost properties and eat in the restaurants and use the spa?
Quite frankly, there are a lot of $100 range HPs that would get them Globalist without a whole lot of spend. In some places, there are sub-$100 per nights at certain times of the year.
So who do they really want? People who spend in the $7k a year vicinity and get 60 nights, or those who spend 35 or 40 nights a year and spend in the $10k+ vicinity because they're in higher cost properties and eat in the restaurants and use the spa?
At this point I am a third of the way and while I have plenty of forward reservations the "footprint" for me could be of issue. That and the lack of that warm and fuzzy from Hyatt. Will keep everyone posted
#104
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,455
This too. Number of nights does not necessarily translate to revenue generation.
#105
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NJ
Programs: World of Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Premier Platinum
Posts: 462
[QUOTE=Kacee;28256889]An equally significant problem is they failed to make Explorist competitive, which means that those of us who can easily make 30 nights but not 60 have no incentive to direct any stays to Hyatt. That was just incredibly dense of them to basically kiss off a large chunk of their existing customer base.
Explorist mid tier benefits are very weak yet takes 30 nights to achieve. Both Marriott and Hilton Gold have better benefits and can be achieved easily. Hyatt basically is pushing these customers to other chains.
I did 30 stays and 60 nights with $16K spending last year but decided not to requalify this year. It doesn't make sense to chase the status with lots of out of way, higher price point Hyatt stays. The new program only rewards big $$$ spender.
Explorist mid tier benefits are very weak yet takes 30 nights to achieve. Both Marriott and Hilton Gold have better benefits and can be achieved easily. Hyatt basically is pushing these customers to other chains.
I did 30 stays and 60 nights with $16K spending last year but decided not to requalify this year. It doesn't make sense to chase the status with lots of out of way, higher price point Hyatt stays. The new program only rewards big $$$ spender.