As of today...How far are you from requalifying?
Apr 20, 2017, 5:15 am
#47
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
Excuse my ignorance, but if you would have no trouble reaching 60 nights/year OR $20,000 spend why is everyone against Hyatt now?
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
Marriott was always my backup before although I usually preferred Hyatt when it was available. Now, with the new requirements, i'm not throwing 20-30 nights driving 1-2 hours to stay at a Hyatt from where I have to stay/work when there's a courtyard 5 minutes away.
Last edited by edcho; Apr 20, 2017 at 9:27 am
Apr 20, 2017, 5:34 am
#48
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MD, USA
Programs: UA- Pl (2MM), AA-Go, Delta-Silver, Hyatt-Globalist!, MR/SPG comb - Plat, Hilton - nada
Posts: 707
Excuse my ignorance, but if you would have no trouble reaching 60 nights/year OR $20,000 spend why is everyone against Hyatt now?
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
I've got 20 already, with 20 more committed by end of Aug...and other travel will come up, so shouldn't be an issue to reach my 60
I see where if you were primarily domestic (HP & HH) then the WOH program has def lost some of its luster
Apr 20, 2017, 5:55 am
#50
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Apr 20, 2017, 10:18 am
#55
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Apr 20, 2017, 10:59 am
#56
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt LT Global Elitist, Bonvyoed LT Titanium, Hilton Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 479
Globalist with 34 nights. Continuing to progress further with the current dbl points promo (as weak as it is) but will hold short of 60 until as late as possible in the year. Probably will keep it around 50-55 so i can stay at a Hyatt if "I want to"
I'm Marriott (and now SPG) Plat for Life so will just move back to those properties for stays during the balance of the year.
I'm Marriott (and now SPG) Plat for Life so will just move back to those properties for stays during the balance of the year.
Apr 20, 2017, 11:03 am
#57
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: MD, USA
Programs: UA- Pl (2MM), AA-Go, Delta-Silver, Hyatt-Globalist!, MR/SPG comb - Plat, Hilton - nada
Posts: 707
then i'm the 3rd 
but like i said - my year is typically long-term (10-14 night) stays at properties like GH/PHs- Seoul, Jakarta, HK, KL, BKK (now will try PH) Dubai, Tokyo, Beijing with an occasional London - Churchill, Paris - Louvre worked in
I generally know the staff - and they know me - and I have no complaints. Maybe I'm in my "box" and other options would be worth trying in those cities...but I have no complaints
and I'm also loyal to UA as well
(2 mill, working on 3...)
but like i said - my year is typically long-term (10-14 night) stays at properties like GH/PHs- Seoul, Jakarta, HK, KL, BKK (now will try PH) Dubai, Tokyo, Beijing with an occasional London - Churchill, Paris - Louvre worked in
I generally know the staff - and they know me - and I have no complaints. Maybe I'm in my "box" and other options would be worth trying in those cities...but I have no complaints
and I'm also loyal to UA as well
(2 mill, working on 3...)
Apr 20, 2017, 12:09 pm
#58
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
Posts: 738
then i'm the 3rd
but like i said - my year is typically long-term (10-14 night) stays at properties like GH/PHs- Seoul, Jakarta, HK, KL, BKK (now will try PH) Dubai, Tokyo, Beijing with an occasional London - Churchill, Paris - Louvre worked in
I generally know the staff - and they know me - and I have no complaints. Maybe I'm in my "box" and other options would be worth trying in those cities...but I have no complaints
and I'm also loyal to UA as well (2 mill, working on 3...)
but like i said - my year is typically long-term (10-14 night) stays at properties like GH/PHs- Seoul, Jakarta, HK, KL, BKK (now will try PH) Dubai, Tokyo, Beijing with an occasional London - Churchill, Paris - Louvre worked in
I generally know the staff - and they know me - and I have no complaints. Maybe I'm in my "box" and other options would be worth trying in those cities...but I have no complaints
and I'm also loyal to UA as well
(2 mill, working on 3...)In years past, I was the low-life that typically made Diamond on stays rather than nights. This year, I'll make it to 60 nights due to some 7- and 14-night stays this year.
In previous years, I gave up some full-service Marriotts for Hyatt Places in order to get my Hyatt stays over 25. This year and going forward, there just isn't any incentive to do that.
For the vast majority of folks who already know they won't hit 60 nights with Hyatt, the incentives to stay with Hyatt (and the level of love for Hyatt) dropped significantly.
Apr 20, 2017, 7:01 pm
#60
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Excuse my ignorance, but if you would have no trouble reaching 60 nights/year OR $20,000 spend why is everyone against Hyatt now?
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
You still get best available room plus now get a suite (if available)
Breakfast is still included.
Club access is still available.
Now resort fees are free.
Only thing we aren't getting is 1,000 points or amenity.
Or am I missing something?????
First, the amenity was a pretty big benefit. Under the new criteria, it's a loss of up to 60K points on the way to top tier. I usually picked the amenity, so the loss for that is even higher IMO.
Second, it's an obvious problem for anyone staying fewer than 60 nights. It's even a problem for those staying 60 nights because the real requirement is closer to 70 nights. That's because there's an annual night, a night at 30 and a night at 60. For those of us with a credit card, which we'd be crazy not to have doing 60 paid nights, that's another night for a total of 64 nights.
But that's not all. On the way to the 60 nights, there will be more nights due to points "earned". So depending on the property and stay history, that could be another 6 nights or more.
So there we are. The top tier doesn't work unless we spend 20% of our year at a brand with a small footprint. That drops to 55, but will go right back up if there is a year of non-qualification.
Sure, Marriott requires 75 nights, but all nights count. Even their credit card counts towards nights, and a lot of them!
Finally, there is a lot of puffery in Hyatt's new program. For example, they make a big deal over staying at 5 or 10 brands, but that's a once-in-a-lifetime benefit. And don't get me started about the free 10-cent bottle of water.