Nov 3, 2023, 9:29 am
Last edit by: FlyinHawaiian
HA's official web page on the lie flats
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
24 aircraft converted: N360HA, N361HA, N370HA, N373HA, N374HA, N375HA, N378HA, N379HA, N380HA, N381HA, N382HA, N383HA, N384HA, N385HA, N386HA, N388HA, N389HA, N390HA, N391HA, N392HA, N393HA, N395HA, N396HA, N399HA
Consolidated "Hawaiian Airlines A330" thread
Dec 7, 2014, 12:57 pm
#391
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA EXP; Marriott BonVoy Titanium Elite, Marriott LT Plat.
Posts: 1,717
My hunch is once the A330-800s arrive (if not sooner), they'll have little choice but to create a "subfleet" of 330s with a lie-flat type premium cabin if they want to stay competitive in the int'l market. I would think that at 28 A330s (includes the 338s) + the remaining 767s, there would be sufficient mass for a subfleet to occur. The current F seat is sufficient for West Coast + Tahiti but lags big-time in the longhaul int'l flights (+ JFK)...I bet they're losing out on untapped revenue having to price the current F seats (sold as C) at steep discounts on the longhaul int'l flights.
Dec 7, 2014, 7:52 pm
#392
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
This...especially the last two sentences.
My hunch is once the A330-800s arrive (if not sooner), they'll have little choice but to create a "subfleet" of 330s with a lie-flat type premium cabin if they want to stay competitive in the int'l market. I would think that at 28 A330s (includes the 338s) + the remaining 767s, there would be sufficient mass for a subfleet to occur. The current F seat is sufficient for West Coast + Tahiti but lags big-time in the longhaul int'l flights (+ JFK)...I bet they're losing out on untapped revenue having to price the current F seats (sold as C) at steep discounts on the longhaul int'l flights.
My hunch is once the A330-800s arrive (if not sooner), they'll have little choice but to create a "subfleet" of 330s with a lie-flat type premium cabin if they want to stay competitive in the int'l market. I would think that at 28 A330s (includes the 338s) + the remaining 767s, there would be sufficient mass for a subfleet to occur. The current F seat is sufficient for West Coast + Tahiti but lags big-time in the longhaul int'l flights (+ JFK)...I bet they're losing out on untapped revenue having to price the current F seats (sold as C) at steep discounts on the longhaul int'l flights.
Dec 23, 2014, 10:52 am
#393
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 501
Seat Selection
We will be flying on flight 50 HNL-JFK. I have looked at Seat Guru and row 1 seat AB or HJ (for the 2 of us) look good but they are not available. 1CG is available. I am concerned as to whether the bulkhead in front of these seats means more or less leg room compared to row 2. I am tall so this is an issue. I have been in the first row on other airlines and sometimes they are great but sometimes they have less leg room due to the hard divider.
Suggestions??
Suggestions??
Dec 23, 2014, 12:15 pm
#394
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: HNL
Programs: HA - Pualani Plat; Avis FIRST; Emerald Club Executive
Posts: 169
We will be flying on flight 50 HNL-JFK. I have looked at Seat Guru and row 1 seat AB or HJ (for the 2 of us) look good but they are not available. 1CG is available. I am concerned as to whether the bulkhead in front of these seats means more or less leg room compared to row 2. I am tall so this is an issue. I have been in the first row on other airlines and sometimes they are great but sometimes they have less leg room due to the hard divider.
Suggestions??
Suggestions??
However 1CG is good as there is no one in front of you reclining.
Dec 23, 2014, 12:41 pm
#395
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 501
Seating
My only choice in row 1 is C/G. Currrently I am in 2 C/G.
Dec 23, 2014, 1:07 pm
#396
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: LI, NY
Programs: AA PLT, AAdv since Day One
Posts: 2,682
The Mrs and me have done this r/t about 6 or 7 times now. Take 1CG if you can get it. We have tried 2CG, 2HJ and a sprinkling of other seats. 1CG is it for us from now on. The extra legroom and not having a seat recline onto your "space" is wonderful. Also, the CG seats give you each access to the aisle without having to climb over one of you, although in 2CG you don't have that problem you do have the problem of the seat in from of you making getting up more difficult.
The only issue with 1CG is that there is just a dinky seat pocket on the bulkhead from anything you want to stow. But I'll take that tradeoff.
Have a nice flight!
The only issue with 1CG is that there is just a dinky seat pocket on the bulkhead from anything you want to stow. But I'll take that tradeoff.
Have a nice flight!
Dec 23, 2014, 1:33 pm
#397
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,144
We will be flying on flight 50 HNL-JFK. I have looked at Seat Guru and row 1 seat AB or HJ (for the 2 of us) look good but they are not available. 1CG is available. I am concerned as to whether the bulkhead in front of these seats means more or less leg room compared to row 2. I am tall so this is an issue. I have been in the first row on other airlines and sometimes they are great but sometimes they have less leg room due to the hard divider.
Suggestions??
Suggestions??
Dec 23, 2014, 3:10 pm
#398
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,576
I would also pick 1CG if given the choice.
Dec 31, 2014, 7:51 am
#400
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,144
Jan 6, 2015, 11:59 pm
#402
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 948
Hello FT friends...I'm flying on the redeye (somehow!?) LAS-HNL flight, and wondered what you thought of 3A or 3J for a solo traveler on a redeye. I'll probably want to have a couple drinks and then fall asleep if possible...is my idea reasonable?
Thanks
AA
Thanks
AA
Jan 7, 2015, 1:56 am
#403
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,144
Are those your only options? If so, go for it! If not, why are you focused on those two seats?
Jan 9, 2015, 11:21 pm
#404
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 948
Sorry, I should have framed my question better.
I'm on this redeye and hope to sleep for most of it. Does it matter where in the FC cabin I am as far as sleep possibilities? My options are 1A, 3A, 1G, 2G. I'm a light sleeper, I was thinking that the back corner might be the the quietest.
I'm on this redeye and hope to sleep for most of it. Does it matter where in the FC cabin I am as far as sleep possibilities? My options are 1A, 3A, 1G, 2G. I'm a light sleeper, I was thinking that the back corner might be the the quietest.
Jan 9, 2015, 11:58 pm
#405
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Hawai'i Nei
Programs: Au: UA, Marriott, Hilton; GE
Posts: 7,144
Sorry, I should have framed my question better.
I'm on this redeye and hope to sleep for most of it. Does it matter where in the FC cabin I am as far as sleep possibilities? My options are 1A, 3A, 1G, 2G. I'm a light sleeper, I was thinking that the back corner might be the the quietest.
I'm on this redeye and hope to sleep for most of it. Does it matter where in the FC cabin I am as far as sleep possibilities? My options are 1A, 3A, 1G, 2G. I'm a light sleeper, I was thinking that the back corner might be the the quietest.