More 737-900's For Delta
Apr 20, 2017, 4:22 pm
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At the oneworld Mega DO, we got to tour Boeing's product showroom, which included a mockup of the 787 (which was not yet in commercial service, IIRC). Boeing had it set up in an absurd 3-2-3 layout, claiming that when middle seats were empty it would provide more comfort. While perhaps technically true, when I asked the Boeing representative how often they expected the middles to be empty, their answer didn't seem to reflect reality.
Furthermore, at that time at least a few airlines had already been operating 777s in 10 across configurations. There's no way Boeing didn't expect the 787 to go 9 across, unless they were completely out of touch with their market, which I guess is plausible given the proposed 3-2-3 config.
Furthermore, at that time at least a few airlines had already been operating 777s in 10 across configurations. There's no way Boeing didn't expect the 787 to go 9 across, unless they were completely out of touch with their market, which I guess is plausible given the proposed 3-2-3 config.
I am, and I think many other FlyerTalkers are, but you're completely right about most passengers. Almost all non-frequent fliers buy 100% on price, which means that airlines compete on little except price which leads to things like the survival of the 739 and 17" seats. CX and SQ are victims of this, unable to command a price premium in economy for their superior product.
Apr 20, 2017, 4:42 pm
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Delta has 19 A321's and 63 more to come. Obviously Boeing gave Delta a great deal on 737-900's, as the plane (with 76 now and 54 more to come) will replace many MD88's, 757's, and domestic 767's.
Apr 20, 2017, 5:20 pm
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I don't know about Delta's overhead bins on the 321's since they must have a third party installing them but Airbus is delivering factory fresh planes with overhead bins from the 80's. I guess they've never heard about pivot bins.
Apr 21, 2017, 8:42 pm
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Apr 22, 2017, 2:24 am
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Actually, my trip was ATL-MCO-ATL and I check my bags on those trips (vacation to Orlando with the family with kids and car seats and such), during boarding the FA's made multiple announcements that bags would not fit in as shown on the placards as I witnessed people usuccessfully try and close the bins with bags put in as the placards showed. This thread has multiple reports from others of similar experiences. In
you can hear the FA giving the warning to lie bags flat and not on their side at the 25 second mark.
Apr 22, 2017, 4:15 am
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739 is simply a terrible plane. Flown it on all US operators and it sucks all around. The problem is I think Boeing snowed over most of the airlines post financial crisis and convinced them that the operating costs were too good to pass up.
As mentioned the Airbus narrowbodies are 7" wider and it's totally noticeable. So much so that as mentioned I will take different flights just to be on them. They great aircraft.
Hopefully the MOM becomes reality because flying 739's is not something I will do regularly going forward.
As mentioned the Airbus narrowbodies are 7" wider and it's totally noticeable. So much so that as mentioned I will take different flights just to be on them. They great aircraft.
Hopefully the MOM becomes reality because flying 739's is not something I will do regularly going forward.
Apr 23, 2017, 3:31 pm
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With so many of you reusing to fly on the 737's we should begin to see more middle seats open. That is far better than an extra 0.5 in of seat width. 
Apr 23, 2017, 4:05 pm
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I would rather slum it in the back of a 75D than near the front on a 739 despite the same horrid slimlines.
Apr 23, 2017, 4:06 pm
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Apr 23, 2017, 7:08 pm
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739 is one of my least favorites. Had the "pleasure" of an upgrade to 1A on the way home from SFO and there is NO LEG ROOM in this seat! Should have kept my 10A. Combine this with a 50% chance of a bumpy landing and this plane just sucks.
Apr 24, 2017, 2:03 am
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Apr 24, 2017, 9:11 am
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I am really not one to go PC on people or be easily offended and ask you not to use trigger words or demand that FT create safe spaces, but I would just ask that you reconsider the use of that phrase in the future. I understand some folks find the 737-900ER an unpleasant flying experience, but I think you're doing yourself a disservice trying to make that analogy.