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Old Mar 21, 2017, 12:52 pm
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:14 pm
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What can I do on a laptop that I can't do on a phone that would affect security or intelligence?
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 2:18 pm
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What can I do on a laptop that I can't do on a phone that would affect security or intelligence?
Prevent the passenger sitting in front of you from reclining all the way.
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Prevent the passenger sitting in front of you from reclining all the way.

Bingo!
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 3:12 pm
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No electronic devices larger than cell phones on flights to US from 13 countries
This is just out. Will UA be included? I assume they might, if they fly from one of the 13 countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-13-countries
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 3:17 pm
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This is just out. Will UA be included? I assume they might, if they fly from one of the 13 countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/business...s-13-countries
The answer is a definitely no.

The article OP linked provided the answer:

US authorities have secretly required airlines from 13 nations to forbid passengers from carrying any electronic or electrical device larger than a cellphone.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 3:56 pm
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How does this improve security? I'm sure evil doers heard of connecting flights.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 4:24 pm
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Why do I feel this is more about the Muslim ban than security? It certainly shouldn't matter what airline if the issue is a threat!
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 4:40 pm
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And if this happens to inconvenience Qatar and Etihad passengers (and not those of US legacy carriers) - oh well. But of course we can't assume any ulterior motives here, it's all about protecting us from the "bad guys".
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I certainly would not want to fly with that many lithium batteries checked-in and bouncing around likely not secured well.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 4:49 pm
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It's unclear so far if the 13 nations applies to the airline, flight, or passengers.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 5:16 pm
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Why do I feel this is more about the Muslim ban than security?
Because it probably is.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 5:27 pm
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As this is not airline specific and seems to be a TSA/DHS item, will move this to "Travel Safety/Security > Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate"

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Old Mar 20, 2017, 5:48 pm
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It's said by some in Congress to be just 8 countries, all 8 from the Middle East and North Africa. And then others there say 13, and that includes Saudia.

I'm curious why the numbers are 8 and 13. Maybe only 8 of the 13 have flights serving the US?

It seems to be this will be from countries in the MENA region not served by US common carriers.
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Old Mar 20, 2017, 5:59 pm
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This should be excellent news for the US3 and the EU3. It takes care of the ME3 and pesky TK and ET. Wonder what kind of retaliation they are going to come up with for this.

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Unofficial list of cities, taken from TPG's comments section.

ACC -Accra, Ghana
AMM - Amman, Jordan
CAI - Cairo, Egypt
CMN - Casablanca, Morocco
DOH - Doha, Qatar
DXB - Dubai, UAE
IST - Istanbul, Turkey
KWI - Kuwait City, Kuwait
LOS - Lagos, Nigeria
JED - Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
RUH - Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
AUH - Abu Dhabi, UAE
ADD - Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
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