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US/UK Electronics bans discussion
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Electronic Devices Banned on Flights to US & UK from 10 ME Countries
Mar 21, 2017, 11:06 am
#153
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It just feels a bit extreme/fishy. Surely the purpose of airport security is to have scanners that are sufficient to detect such explosive devices. And if they are in the hold but go off how is that better?
Wouldn't surprise if this was some political effort to both impact ME airline global domination (conspiracy theorists unite - Emirates saw 35% drop in bookings with first ban) as well as of course support the anti-islamic effort going on in the US.
One would hope that this is truly the result of intelligence, but then it sounds too broad to be based on "precise" intelligence across so many countries. Then again I also hope the threat doesn't really exist!
In general - what a pain in the <deleted> for travellers, and particularly business travellers who need to work on flights or doing day trips HBO. Insurance typically only covers £2k/item and now you need to put say an expensive or confidential laptop in the hold??
Netjets might do well.....
Wouldn't surprise if this was some political effort to both impact ME airline global domination (conspiracy theorists unite - Emirates saw 35% drop in bookings with first ban) as well as of course support the anti-islamic effort going on in the US.
One would hope that this is truly the result of intelligence, but then it sounds too broad to be based on "precise" intelligence across so many countries. Then again I also hope the threat doesn't really exist!
In general - what a pain in the <deleted> for travellers, and particularly business travellers who need to work on flights or doing day trips HBO. Insurance typically only covers £2k/item and now you need to put say an expensive or confidential laptop in the hold??
Netjets might do well.....
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Mar 21, 2017, 11:09 am
#154
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The bomber can't activate it if in the hold. Unless on a timer of course.
Mar 21, 2017, 11:13 am
#155
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Correct if you connect in Europe any dangerous device is no longer a hazard.
Mar 21, 2017, 11:14 am
#157
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The UK has now followed suit: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39343971
Mar 21, 2017, 11:17 am
#160
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If the reason really is security, then it seems to come at the expense of safety which is new – so far it's always been liberty that we've traded in for security, whether perceived or real.
Remember the Galaxy Note 7s that caught fire, some of them on planes? Had one of those been in the hold, the fire could probably not have been detected or extinguished before getting out of hand.
I'm aware that the Note 7 would still have been allowed in the cabin had this ban been in place then, but the next time those dodgy batteries might well be in a bigger device. If that happens, this ban will cost more lives than I can see it saving.
Remember the Galaxy Note 7s that caught fire, some of them on planes? Had one of those been in the hold, the fire could probably not have been detected or extinguished before getting out of hand.
I'm aware that the Note 7 would still have been allowed in the cabin had this ban been in place then, but the next time those dodgy batteries might well be in a bigger device. If that happens, this ban will cost more lives than I can see it saving.
Mar 21, 2017, 11:17 am
#161
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Mar 21, 2017, 11:22 am
#163
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If the reason really is security, then it seems to come at the expense of safety which is new – so far it's always been liberty that we've traded in for security, whether perceived or real.
Remember the Galaxy Note 7s that caught fire, some of them on planes? Had one of those been in the hold, the fire could probably not have been detected or extinguished before getting out of hand.
I'm aware that the Note 7 would still have been allowed in the cabin had this ban been in place then, but the next time those dodgy batteries might well be in a bigger device. If that happens, this ban will cost more lives than I can see it saving.
Remember the Galaxy Note 7s that caught fire, some of them on planes? Had one of those been in the hold, the fire could probably not have been detected or extinguished before getting out of hand.
I'm aware that the Note 7 would still have been allowed in the cabin had this ban been in place then, but the next time those dodgy batteries might well be in a bigger device. If that happens, this ban will cost more lives than I can see it saving.
i can only hope that the inevitable conclusion is NOT true...
that the threat that exists is so real and so credible and so likely, that it is more serious than the risk of fires in the hold, etc.
Mar 21, 2017, 11:26 am
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Mar 21, 2017, 11:37 am
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>>The Department of Homeland Security said the restricted items included laptop computers, tablets, cameras, travel printers and games bigger than a phone. The restrictions would not apply to aircraft crews, officials said in a briefing to reporters on Monday night that outlined the terms of the ban.<<
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