Whole Body Scanners Opt Out Stories [merged]
#1501
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: RDU
Programs: OnePass
Posts: 772
From what I have read on this forum, TSO's should not be touching you at all without your consent. If this happens again, I would suggest that you pull your arm out of his clutch, take your watch off, and show it to him.
I would also like to know what the H3LL kind of WEI could be hidden under a watch???
I would also like to know what the H3LL kind of WEI could be hidden under a watch???
#1502
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Winter Garden, FL
Programs: Delta DM-3MM United Gold-MM Marriott Lifetime Titanium Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 13,498
I really suspect they want to steal the watch (which has happened before). They once insisted on x-raying mine. It just makes no sense from a "security" perspective. My watch is clearly just a watch, nothing more.
Bruce
Bruce
#1503
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,393
Wow, this is my first time in this thread. There's as many acronyms and terminology here as there is in the infamous tricks thread.... LOL. You guys should really make a wiki so I don't end up thinking that a '3-striper' is a nice sized fish!
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#1504
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Between EWR & PHL
Programs: UA MileagePlus dirt (former hard-way Silver); AS Mileage Plan MVP; Hilton Honors Silver
Posts: 1,586
3-striper: informal nickname for the Small-Brained Crappie (species centrarchidae faregropesalot), usually found at the mouths of supposedly sterile commercial traffic lanes.
#1506
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southwest Florida
Programs: AA lifetime Gold , DL Gold, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 572
My watch, along with my wallet gets locked up in my personal carry on, which is a hard shell attaché case with a built in combination lock.
This is to prevent some sticky fingered airport security screener from stealing money from my wallet or grabbing my watch and claiming some one else took it.
Do I trust airport security screeners, absolutely not, as far as I am concerned, every one of them is a potential thief.
Mr. Elliott
This is to prevent some sticky fingered airport security screener from stealing money from my wallet or grabbing my watch and claiming some one else took it.
Do I trust airport security screeners, absolutely not, as far as I am concerned, every one of them is a potential thief.
Mr. Elliott
#1507
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: boca raton, florida
Posts: 621
My watch, along with my wallet gets locked up in my personal carry on, which is a hard shell attaché case with a built in combination lock.
This is to prevent some sticky fingered airport security screener from stealing money from my wallet or grabbing my watch and claiming some one else took it.
Do I trust airport security screeners, absolutely not, as far as I am concerned, every one of them is a potential thief.
Mr. Elliott
This is to prevent some sticky fingered airport security screener from stealing money from my wallet or grabbing my watch and claiming some one else took it.
Do I trust airport security screeners, absolutely not, as far as I am concerned, every one of them is a potential thief.
Mr. Elliott
#1508
Moderator: Midwest, Las Vegas & Dining Buzz
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Chicago, Illinois
Posts: 17,976
#1510
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: DL Silver Medallion
Posts: 2,671
First time & not horribly unpleasant.
Just had my first opt-out experience at JAX.
- Took about 10 minutes from the time I asked for the opt out.
- I was described what would be required of me (pat down) if I wished to continue with the opt out.
- Most of additional time was waiting for a male assist.
- The agent who conducted the pat down was very friendly and explained the procedure thoroughly before he started.
- I was given the option to have a private screening (which I declined).
- Pat down was no worse then what I have received a couple of times after being flagged by the Nude-O-Scope.
- All in all it was very painless and I will certainly be doing it whenever possible.
#1511
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Join Date: Dec 1999
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 15,352
SEA, 11PM
Flying a red-eye on Monday night. I spent Sunday in the emergency room with a kidney infection and was not feeling particularly well (or particularly interested in making nice with TSA).
I opted out.
And waited, and waited.
Finally, I asked the woman manning the post where I opted out why I wasn't able to see my bags.
She told me it was my choice to opt out.
I asked her if I was entitled to see my possessions at all times. She said yes. I said, "Why can't I then?"
She said "I'm not sure, but you can't go in there until someone comes to take you through."
I had been waiting over 3 minutes at this point and I had no idea where my briefcase (containing my iPad) was. In the meantime, willing nude-o-scope victims kept walking around me, giving me disgusted looks for "causing a problem." I kept asking the gatekeeper the same questions:
"Why is this taking so long?"
"Is this delay retaliation for me opting out?"
"Where are my bags?"
"Why can't I see my bags?"
Eventually, she called for a male assist a second time. She was clearly tired of me, but I didn't stop asking until the male clerk came to give me the full patdown. At least then I was able to watch my bags.
Miserable experience. With me being ill, I actually contemplated going through the scanner, but I haven't been through one yet, so why should I start now?
I opted out.
And waited, and waited.
Finally, I asked the woman manning the post where I opted out why I wasn't able to see my bags.
She told me it was my choice to opt out.
I asked her if I was entitled to see my possessions at all times. She said yes. I said, "Why can't I then?"
She said "I'm not sure, but you can't go in there until someone comes to take you through."
I had been waiting over 3 minutes at this point and I had no idea where my briefcase (containing my iPad) was. In the meantime, willing nude-o-scope victims kept walking around me, giving me disgusted looks for "causing a problem." I kept asking the gatekeeper the same questions:
"Why is this taking so long?"
"Is this delay retaliation for me opting out?"
"Where are my bags?"
"Why can't I see my bags?"
Eventually, she called for a male assist a second time. She was clearly tired of me, but I didn't stop asking until the male clerk came to give me the full patdown. At least then I was able to watch my bags.
Miserable experience. With me being ill, I actually contemplated going through the scanner, but I haven't been through one yet, so why should I start now?
#1512
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SJC
Programs: AA, AS, Marriott
Posts: 6,060
Don't let the masses shame you into using the NoS. They're just ignorant of the options, and they probably wouldn't go through it either if they knew the full implications.
#1513
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Newport Beach, California, USA
Posts: 36,062
File a complaint against the TSO for not allowing you to keep your possessions in view at all times. If you don't remember the name, you can give a description, the airport, time, and checkpoint.
Don't let the masses shame you into using the NoS. They're just ignorant of the options, and they probably wouldn't go through it either if they knew the full implications.
Don't let the masses shame you into using the NoS. They're just ignorant of the options, and they probably wouldn't go through it either if they knew the full implications.
#1514
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Winter Garden, FL
Programs: Delta DM-3MM United Gold-MM Marriott Lifetime Titanium Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 13,498
Bruce
#1515
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Join Date: Dec 1999
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 15,352
I'm the first to admit -- I was feeling so lousy all I wanted was for the nonsense to be over.
3 days later, I'm still not close to 100%, but the fever/chills spells have subsided. I was fortunate I didn't have to be admitted and that the doctor thought I'd be OK to travel home.
3 days later, I'm still not close to 100%, but the fever/chills spells have subsided. I was fortunate I didn't have to be admitted and that the doctor thought I'd be OK to travel home.