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Old Jan 1, 2017, 7:55 am
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Continued from 2016 discussion: 2016 Credit Card Earning discussion
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda

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On-going offers

Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)

Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:

1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)

Full list:

I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**

^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions

II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)

III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem

IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)

V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM

Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment

VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending

** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)

IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293

Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles

Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.

HK miles/hotel points earning ability
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by beach86
Thanks everything for a thoroughly detailed response. Agoda do a lot of these AM deals under their PointsMax program but in this case would work out at 2CPM which seems to either break even or slightly inflated based on many of the above examples.
You're right. I wouldn't advise buying Asia Miles at 17.8 HK$ Cents each. You can't always get that much value out of it and if you hypothetically would buy all your miles at a price you justify with the retail value of the ticket you're getting, you might as well buy the ticket and spare yourself the hassles of redeeming. 10 to 12 cents Hong Kong seems like a sane valuation to me.
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by theworld
Just got a message from CCB confirming that they intend to support Android and Apple Pay in the near future.

Seems Citi is really being left behind on this mobile payment set-up.
It's a shame about the above and also the whole no-contactless thing, because the Citi mobile app is pretty good.
How hard can it be to make a credit card contactless... Surely it's in both their's and also MC/Visa's interests to offer it.
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 1:15 am
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Related question - Citibank has a 5% extra redemption offer for AM right now - good offer?
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by bmtsang
In that case, is it safe to assume AM is worth $0.1 per AM unless using for long-haul or F class tickets (up to $0.5 per AM)?
(My opinion only) you shouldn't use sticker price to value awards, but what price you will pay for a cash ticket for similar routing and similar time. Even if it is in a different class of service.

You see me doing this in the above:

- I valued my Christmas CTS trip at the KE indirect Economy price vs CX/JL J miles - the KE times work better for me and you know my feelings about the CX regional J seat

- I also valued my brother's MIL trip as QF PE price vs CX/QF J miles - since PE is the maximum my brother is willing to pay there's no point hypothesising the "value" my brother is getting based on J sticker price

Originally Posted by ebayhtl
It's a shame about the above and also the whole no-contactless thing, because the Citi mobile app is pretty good.
How hard can it be to make a credit card contactless... Surely it's in both their's and also MC/Visa's interests to offer it.
Also they have a pretty established relationship with OCL...if they only want to get people charging to their cards and hoping some of them will fall behind in payments, the Octopus card already does that.

Originally Posted by ebayhtl
Related question - Citibank has a 5% extra redemption offer for AM right now - good offer?
I'm keeping Citibank Reward points for the flexibility - I didn't even redeem 30% Avios
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 9:13 pm
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That's a fair point Percysmith about AM values. I also hate CX regional seats so only fly them on long haul
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 9:45 pm
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We fly regional J only because we can't redeem regional Y...
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Old Feb 16, 2017, 11:48 pm
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Fubon 8X Japan and 20X extended to 28 Feb 18

http://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21133

Asia Miles redemption also extended to 28 Feb 18
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 1:55 am
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How long does it take for the Citi Premiermiles welcome bonus miles to post? I think it has been 4 months now and still no trace of the points...
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Old Feb 17, 2017, 3:30 am
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https://www.citibank.com.hk/english/...dc-master.html

c.Up to 270,000 points: Will be credited into the relevant Eligible Card accounts within 4 months upon meeting the relevant spending condition.

But they have been known for not awarding it until you ask about it.
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Old Feb 18, 2017, 10:14 am
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Originally Posted by staff
How long does it take for the Citi Premiermiles welcome bonus miles to post? I think it has been 4 months now and still no trace of the points...
I got mine a couple of weeks ago. Awarded bang on 4 months.
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Old Feb 20, 2017, 6:15 am
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Hi everyone, new here so apologies in advance for what might seem like a silly question. I've just had my BEA Flyer World MasterCard application approved. Once I receive the card, how do I link my Asia Miles account? Or will I not have to? Thanks!
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Old Feb 20, 2017, 7:58 am
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You can choose to redeem flyer world points into coupon or UO RewardU or Asia miles (most people expected to pick the latter). Once you choose the latter you will be asked for your AM number.

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Old Feb 20, 2017, 11:37 pm
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Can anyone confirm if payments made to CX over the phone qualify as "online spend" for the purpose of the

1/ SCB Asiamiles: HK$4 / miles online spending earn rate?

2/ CCB Eye: 5x online + 3x instant travel club rewards?
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Old Feb 20, 2017, 11:52 pm
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Citi Reward annual fee waiver

What's the procedure for waiving the annual fee for Citi Rewards cards? (I only got one last year and am just coming up to the first anniversary). Call up before the annual fee is billed? Or after? And do they ever cause problems about waiving for this card?
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Old Feb 21, 2017, 12:41 am
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Originally Posted by dgittings
What's the procedure for waiving the annual fee for Citi Rewards cards? (I only got one last year and am just coming up to the first anniversary). Call up before the annual fee is billed? Or after? And do they ever cause problems about waiving for this card?
No big deal in my opinion. Just call to waive it once you see it in your online banking or on the bill. I once got it waived retroactively after 5 months when I cried (not literally) to them about forgetting to call when it was charged.
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