jamienbaker

I'll start by saying that I am vehemently opposed to visitors in First, and have consistently rallied against posters who ask that their spouses in J be allowed up to kiss them goodnight, etc. I've never had any problems on CX in this regard, but I would immediately escalate the issue if I felt any crew were consistently allowing passengers up front for any reason other than an emergency.

So, with that out of the way, a hypothetical occurred to me. What if the only two or three passengers traveling in First (as has been known to happen) are of the same family, and wish somebody booked in J to come up and say hello at some stage? Should the collective will of those booked in F have some influence over how the crew protects the cabin?

Mind you, I don't have skin in the game on this issue, it just crossed my mind as I'm holding two F seats in the immediate term that on a flight showing F4. Yes, yes, I know they'll likely fill it, and I don't know anybody on board that I'd want to invite up. But that still doesn't keep me from wondering....

Thoughts?

caimaster

I don't think that is a big deal when you have the entire F cabin. Ultimately that's at the discretion on the FA. On here people have mentioned the FA would allow family members traveling in other cabins to sit in F for landing so they can deplane together. So if the cabin is empty or filled with your entire family I doubt FA would give you hard time for guest to have meal or visit in the F cabin.

AC*SE

I think it is a bad idea. Sure, if you're the only passenger in F then no one is inconvenienced when your friend/colleague/potential-date comes forward to visit. But then that starts to create expectations: "They let him visit me on the last flight!"

The only compelling exception that I can see is a medical situation in which the F suite provides a doctor/nurse/attendant better space in which to assist a patient.

Even the "sit up front for landing to deplane together" strikes me as misguided. If there is a real need for priority disembarkation (to avoid a misconnection, for example) then far better than ground personnel are there to provide an escort after disembarkation.

Guy Betsy

You tell the cabin crew first and you go to the back to see your friends and invite them. One at a time. They can't just wander up, and the cabin crew won't summon your friends up either.

Besides why the need for your friends to see u in flight? Is it just to show off? You can just show them photos later.

bluegreentravel

Same issues in an SQ Suites thread. Peculiar, really. I'm in the "if you want First benefits like priority disembarkation, buy First tickets" team. Harsh, but only fair, in my opinion. Flight entitlements are not a blood right. If one truly cares for their family members/friends, then don't let them get stuck in the lower cabins, while you languish in First... (To avoid generalizing, there are of course exceptions here and there)

carrotjuice

I was once in F alone and CSD was happy to move my spouse and child to F from J, but they continue to have J meals. Ask the CSD nicely, though YMMV.

But when I was one of two passengers in F, CSD only allowed them to come into F for early disembarking. Her response was "as much as we would like to, the other passenger may complain."

bagold

fat chance it will happen with all the op ups they continue to give!

fly747first

Some routes still have very empty F cabins

MSPeconomist

Except SQ tends to bring children traveling alone up to FC about an hour before landing. It's very annoying.

cascade

Hello all,

Have a dilemma that I am trying to sort out. Looking at return flights from HKG back to the US next year, the problem is that all of the flights only have one First class seat available, with plenty of Business open. I'm traveling with my girlfriend, and was wondering if I book one of us in First and the other in Business, if we would both be able to sit in the pod in First throughout the flight, or is this heavily frowned upon? I see photos showing two people dining together in the same pod across from each other, and the seats also are incredibly wide. The ottoman even appears to have its own seatbelt so that a guest can remain there for extended periods. We are both slender people, so the space isn't the issue. More worried about it violating policy or etiquette and being asked to return to our seats. It'll be an anniversary trip, so sitting apart from each other throughout the flight would not be ideal. Would something like this work, or should I keep looking and hope that I can find something with two F seats?

Guy Betsy

No sharing except if other person is also booked in F. Its not frowned upon. Its forbidden !
If in J, they stay in J. You may invite them up for a few minutes visit. But they cannot sit with you for meals.

Book the one seat in F now. Another seat might open up closer the time.

QRC3288

Correct in some ways, but not the most important part. Yup, two people can dine together, and yea that's what the seatbelt on the ottoman is for. Unfortunately for your situation, those two people need to be both ticketed in F. It's not so much this is "frowned upon" or against etiquette - you're black/white violating CX policy, and I'm almost certain the FAs will not allow it (as certain as one can be without the arrogance of saying 100%). From my anecdotal experience (30-50 F sectors in last 5+ years?), I have seen an instance where kids from the back were brought up to F to sit for the 20 min landing sequence with parents, ostensibly so they could all be together for deplaning. The FA also went to each F pax and quietly told us what was going on; it's not just ho hum to bring visitors up to F. However, I've also been on flights where the question is popped about visitors and/or swapping seats and this is almost always flatly denied. Usually they'll say if you want to swap, you do it at the beginning and once the flight starts there is no changing.

The farthest I've ever seen it pushed was when it was just me and a fellow passenger in F, I think it was coming back from LAX a few years ago. I was in 2A he was in 1A on the 77W. He had a friend somewhere behind in either J or Y. That friend was allowed to come up and play cards with him for ~30-60 minutes. However, the FAs specifically would not serve them food because I remember the friends asking for food, and I have never seen this permitted in any of the other flights.

I think the main point is no, this is not something where you're going to be hang out together as long as one scores an F ticket. The size of the F seat does not make it a family seat.You should assume you won't see each other except for perhaps a quick hello.

You should keep checking for more availability.

RA-wannabe

No sharing of seats allowed in CX. In the rare occasion that the IFS allows, the IFS has to talk to each and every single F Class passenger to explain why she allows it. CX is pretty strict with regards to this.

But it's good that your and your gf are seated far far apart. Less chance for quarreling and getting sick of each other. Who knows, you might get a better looking gf in "F" class...

IncyWincy

Agree with above posters. This is not to slight guests but the reverse. It is necessary for preserving the quality of CX F. This is why CX F is so revered and unique.

If there is only one seat after waiting, gf gets to sit. It is perfectly fine to swap before the flight starts (and not swap back).

Otherwise, both of you can be in business.

sonofzeus

What's the CX policy about conjugal visits in the F loo?