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Best credit card conversion rate to Asiamiles (HK) - 2014 and prior
#2206
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 88
Is this card worth applying for?
BOC i-card
Welcome offer of 25,000 points per supplmentary card (max of 9) with minimum spend 2000HKD @ $1.2/mile
Current promo (until Dec 2014) 10x telecom/online/PayPass transactions @ $1.5/mile
Anything I've missed? This card hasn't been mentioned before so I'm wondering if there's a catch somewhere
BOC i-card
Welcome offer of 25,000 points per supplmentary card (max of 9) with minimum spend 2000HKD @ $1.2/mile
Current promo (until Dec 2014) 10x telecom/online/PayPass transactions @ $1.5/mile
Anything I've missed? This card hasn't been mentioned before so I'm wondering if there's a catch somewhere
#2207
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
Yes. The 10X (extra 9X) cap is to 10,000 points per month (i.e. on $1,111.11 spending/month). And you can't apply for multiple i-Cards so it's a very pedantic cap to work around.
#2208
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
Change pros: same earn rates as DBS Black AE on non-CX local and overseas earn. Better rate for cx.com
Change con: Priority Pass benefit reduced from unlimited Priority Pass for principal cardholder to limited use PP (4 times/year) for principal cardholder.
I wouldn't cut the DBS yet. DBS has occassional 10% bonus conversion of DBS$ from time to time. CX Elite never has.
I would seek to convert to DBS Black MC - same earn rates and much easier to use around town.
http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...p?id=12939&p=1
Change con: Priority Pass benefit reduced from unlimited Priority Pass for principal cardholder to limited use PP (4 times/year) for principal cardholder.
I wouldn't cut the DBS yet. DBS has occassional 10% bonus conversion of DBS$ from time to time. CX Elite never has.
I would seek to convert to DBS Black MC - same earn rates and much easier to use around town.
http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...p?id=12939&p=1
#2209
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
Earning miles on tax via CCB Dual Currency and HSBC @ 16.67/mile
Update 14 Jan: Just found out you need to possess HSBC bank account (savings/current) in order to be able to pay CCB Dual Currency card with HSBC Platinum Visa/Unionapy for the RewardCash
Even if you are paying out of the HSBC Platinum rather than the savings/current: http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/forum.php?id=6349&p=5
Even if you are paying out of the HSBC Platinum rather than the savings/current: http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/forum.php?id=6349&p=5
#2210
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
Rhetorical question...
An iPhone trading site asked https://www.facebook.com/iphoneprice...if_t=notify_me "All iPad mini 3 and iPad Air 2 are trading at $188 minus costs, why would we pay to be removalists?"
Obviously the trading crowd hasn't met us FTers...188 for $4,688 - 4% loss.
Say you use the 2% Bankcomm offer (I know I said it was crap, but I recently had to eat my own hat and use this offer myself cos I'm running out of spend offers!) and earned $6/mile (Bankcomm Diamond only). 2% rebate means the cost is reduced to $94 and I earn $6/mile on $4,688 spend or 781 miles. Average cost of mile - $0.12 - I know a lot of you will pay that.
And for those of you with targeted Worldmiles and BEA offers the cost is even less.
Obviously the trading crowd hasn't met us FTers...188 for $4,688 - 4% loss.
Say you use the 2% Bankcomm offer (I know I said it was crap, but I recently had to eat my own hat and use this offer myself cos I'm running out of spend offers!) and earned $6/mile (Bankcomm Diamond only). 2% rebate means the cost is reduced to $94 and I earn $6/mile on $4,688 spend or 781 miles. Average cost of mile - $0.12 - I know a lot of you will pay that.
And for those of you with targeted Worldmiles and BEA offers the cost is even less.
Last edited by percysmith; Oct 23, 2014 at 1:30 am
#2211
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,068
Do you know how long DBS normally takes to get AMs?
I submitted the fax on 22 Oct. My DBS rewards balance was showing as zero as of 24 Oct, but so far nothing in AM.
I submitted the fax on 22 Oct. My DBS rewards balance was showing as zero as of 24 Oct, but so far nothing in AM.
#2212
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
15 calendar days the last time I did it . I haven't done much with them since.
#2213
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,172
Which HK Credit cards allow conversion to Avios and how does the rate compare with conversion to Asia Miles? Thank you.
#2214
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,068
15 calendar days the last time I did it . I haven't done much with them since.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/17805054-post1.html
I am actually moving my spend over to Dah Sing for pure Avios, works out at HKD$6 for 1 Avios locally (including AAVS). For foreign I now use Public Bank because of its lower conversion rate (no AM though).
Also see this thread on the BA board: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...-cards-hk.html
#2215
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 755
Dahsing BA ($6/miles; $4/miles for overseas)
Citibank Prestiage (Same earn rate as Asiamiles, i.e. $6/miles; $4/miles for overseas)
Citibank Premiermiles (Same earn rate as Asiamiles, i.e. $8/miles; $4/miles for overseas)
HSBC Premier (Same earn rate as Asiamiles, i.e. $16.67/miles; possible to enjoy 6x)
AMEX (non-CX cards) (Same earn rate as Asiamiles, $15/miles or $7.5/miles if joined turbo program)
*HSBC Premier cardholders can redeem Reward cash in other card account for AVIOS.
Prestige is slightly better than Dahsing because of its year-end bound feature, which gives you at least 5% more miles.
#2216
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,172
Thank you Chester.
A few questions on other matters:
1. What is the earn rate for CX Amex Elite? I hear it has been improved but do not see it recommended on the wiki above.
2. Is there a cap for the HSBC 11x (6 plus 5 times) Fridays? Or is it just an overall HKD 180,000 per calendar year?
(editing to answer my own question - Each registered cardholder is entitled to receive double extra RewardCash for the first HK$4,500 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in the first quarter of 2014 and the first HK$9,000 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in each subsequent quarter of 2014 during the promotional period.)
3. The chart above says that HSBC 6x earn rate is really HKD 2.78 for a mile. This being the case, with 11x on Fridays, it becomes HKD 1.51 for a mile (2.78 / 6 x 11). Am I correct?
Thank you.
A few questions on other matters:
1. What is the earn rate for CX Amex Elite? I hear it has been improved but do not see it recommended on the wiki above.
2. Is there a cap for the HSBC 11x (6 plus 5 times) Fridays? Or is it just an overall HKD 180,000 per calendar year?
(editing to answer my own question - Each registered cardholder is entitled to receive double extra RewardCash for the first HK$4,500 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in the first quarter of 2014 and the first HK$9,000 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in each subsequent quarter of 2014 during the promotional period.)
3. The chart above says that HSBC 6x earn rate is really HKD 2.78 for a mile. This being the case, with 11x on Fridays, it becomes HKD 1.51 for a mile (2.78 / 6 x 11). Am I correct?
Thank you.
Last edited by IncyWincy; Oct 28, 2014 at 8:21 am
#2217
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Gold, QF Bronze
Posts: 735
got a Citibank Ultima card invitation today, should I accept it?
#2218
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,801
All depends whether you spend >HK$1.46M/year or not.
P.S. Unless you got a reduction or full waiver of the $23.8K annual fee. If full faiver then accept it for sure. If reduction then repeat the calculation in #2059 but plug in new annual fee (and adjust/take away the welcome gift if any)
P.S. Unless you got a reduction or full waiver of the $23.8K annual fee. If full faiver then accept it for sure. If reduction then repeat the calculation in #2059 but plug in new annual fee (and adjust/take away the welcome gift if any)
Last edited by percysmith; Oct 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm
#2219
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX Gold, QF Bronze
Posts: 735
is the invitation a random one, or requires one to be a citigold private client customer?
#2220
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 755
Thank you Chester.
A few questions on other matters:
1. What is the earn rate for CX Amex Elite? I hear it has been improved but do not see it recommended on the wiki above.
2. Is there a cap for the HSBC 11x (6 plus 5 times) Fridays? Or is it just an overall HKD 180,000 per calendar year?
(editing to answer my own question - Each registered cardholder is entitled to receive double extra RewardCash for the first HK$4,500 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in the first quarter of 2014 and the first HK$9,000 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in each subsequent quarter of 2014 during the promotional period.)
3. The chart above says that HSBC 6x earn rate is really HKD 2.78 for a mile. This being the case, with 11x on Fridays, it becomes HKD 1.51 for a mile (2.78 / 6 x 11). Am I correct?
Thank you.
A few questions on other matters:
1. What is the earn rate for CX Amex Elite? I hear it has been improved but do not see it recommended on the wiki above.
2. Is there a cap for the HSBC 11x (6 plus 5 times) Fridays? Or is it just an overall HKD 180,000 per calendar year?
(editing to answer my own question - Each registered cardholder is entitled to receive double extra RewardCash for the first HK$4,500 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in the first quarter of 2014 and the first HK$9,000 eligible transactions made on all Fridays in each subsequent quarter of 2014 during the promotional period.)
3. The chart above says that HSBC 6x earn rate is really HKD 2.78 for a mile. This being the case, with 11x on Fridays, it becomes HKD 1.51 for a mile (2.78 / 6 x 11). Am I correct?
Thank you.
You are correct for question 3.