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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
- from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 master thread
#76
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
I've never done a TP run before but I've decided to take advantage of the IL28SALE ex-DUB to construct something. I'm currently playing around with ITA Matrix and browsing some possible itineraries.
I've also been reading through the various relevant threads on BA Flyertalk (including stickies and wikis) but one thing which isn't completely clear to me is how do I book the desired itinerary in order to minimise price and to maximise TPs? It seems to me that if I were to book an itinerary through the BA website the price is often somewhat higher (due to different stopover rules?) and also on domestic 3-class flights it sometimes books into Business rather than into First.
I've seen suggestions on this board that one solution is to phone BA and ask that the individual flights be booked under AA codes - is that the best way, or is there a way it can be booked on the AA website using a BAEC number?
Likewise for US codes? Can they be quoted to BA on the phone? Or can I book on the US website using my BAEC number?
I've also been reading through the various relevant threads on BA Flyertalk (including stickies and wikis) but one thing which isn't completely clear to me is how do I book the desired itinerary in order to minimise price and to maximise TPs? It seems to me that if I were to book an itinerary through the BA website the price is often somewhat higher (due to different stopover rules?) and also on domestic 3-class flights it sometimes books into Business rather than into First.
I've seen suggestions on this board that one solution is to phone BA and ask that the individual flights be booked under AA codes - is that the best way, or is there a way it can be booked on the AA website using a BAEC number?
Likewise for US codes? Can they be quoted to BA on the phone? Or can I book on the US website using my BAEC number?
BA website does not sell US or AA codes unless it has to.
You can book BA, AA, US, AY, IB, and JL flights by phone to BA or using a travel agent. Some folks have reported that BA is willing to sell flights by phone on any metal with whom they have an interline ticketing agreement (which is basically every major network carrier worldwide).
You can book on AA.com using the "Sort by schedule" option, the "Show flights from AA, American Eagle, and oneworld partners" option, and then choose show 50 flights. Reproduce exactly what you found on ITA. Do not log into the AA website, use the "Proceed as guest option", and when the chance arises, enter your BAEC number. It should recognize your status and award you points automatically without any problems.
#77
Join Date: Mar 2003
Programs: Marriott and British Airways
Posts: 740
Thanks for the tips. I guess I have to wait for a new sale. Budget a 1800 euro for MlRun is maximum. I saw some flights with US AIRWAYS from Dublin to Phoenix at 1800 euro.. connect PHL No flights from RTM or AMS
#78
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: East Anglia, England
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 2,056
I've never done a TP run before but I've decided to take advantage of the IL28SALE ex-DUB to construct something. I'm currently playing around with ITA Matrix and browsing some possible itineraries.
I've also been reading through the various relevant threads on BA Flyertalk (including stickies and wikis) but one thing which isn't completely clear to me is how do I book the desired itinerary in order to minimise price and to maximise TPs? It seems to me that if I were to book an itinerary through the BA website the price is often somewhat higher (due to different stopover rules?) and also on domestic 3-class flights it sometimes books into Business rather than into First.
I've seen suggestions on this board that one solution is to phone BA and ask that the individual flights be booked under AA codes - is that the best way, or is there a way it can be booked on the AA website using a BAEC number?
Likewise for US codes? Can they be quoted to BA on the phone? Or can I book on the US website using my BAEC number?
I've also been reading through the various relevant threads on BA Flyertalk (including stickies and wikis) but one thing which isn't completely clear to me is how do I book the desired itinerary in order to minimise price and to maximise TPs? It seems to me that if I were to book an itinerary through the BA website the price is often somewhat higher (due to different stopover rules?) and also on domestic 3-class flights it sometimes books into Business rather than into First.
I've seen suggestions on this board that one solution is to phone BA and ask that the individual flights be booked under AA codes - is that the best way, or is there a way it can be booked on the AA website using a BAEC number?
Likewise for US codes? Can they be quoted to BA on the phone? Or can I book on the US website using my BAEC number?
This is what I do. I first use the Matrix to get an idea of the dates at the price that suits me. I then price it up and look at the routings. After that, I go to aa.com, multi-city search and fill in all the fields that I need. After this point, I either look based on the price or schedule. I always make sure I can get the price that I got from Matrix and then start to tweak the schedule.
Maximising TPs whilst keeping the price down will take some time and will be dependent on how much time you want to spend at various destinations. Just by of an example, my current trip will be:
CPH-HEL-LHR-LCY-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LCY-LHR-MAD-DUB
I could have gone back to HEL instead of DUB but the price went up a £110 and quite frankly I didn't fancy it. Nailing down this itinerary took me about two hours from start to finish and that was just because I kept playing around with the cities.
My wife calls it 'a quest' but I like trying to maximise the TPs but keep the price low and accommodative to what I want.
As far as booking goes, I always call BA to do it and feed them all the information (line by line). This way I can get additional Avios by using the BA Amex. One can book online with AA but the additional Amex Avios won't be given. Alternatively, dutch_122 may be able to do the reservation for you and all you have to do is ring BA to pay for it.
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#79
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Reading, England
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 145
Thank You to EI147, Calchas and Hoch for your helpful tips and I will go away again to play with ITA Matrix. I was just thinking of going as far as SFO and LAX but now HNL is definitely coming into play thanks to the various routings which others have posted.
#80
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, M&M, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,223
I will get Bronze with weekend TP run no problem, as it's 6 x BA flights. But then I will have enough points to get to Silver but not enough BA flights, just 2 x BA and 2 x AA and they are booked on my tickets as AA.
The same for my husband, he won't get silver even though he will have 1200TP, because he won't have enough BA Flights. I can easily fix it for myself, just fly on the cheapest possible route on BA and will have enough flights but my husband is not flying a lot.
Is my thinking right? Number of eliglible flights is counted from the date particular tier was reached? Or is it global number of flights done in membership year?
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#81
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 333
27 MAR 15 THROUGH 12 APR 15 OR
01 JUL 15 THROUGH 31 AUG 15 OR
22 NOV 15 THROUGH 30 NOV 15
#82
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Gloucestershire
Programs: BA Gold (ex-GGL, maybe future Silver), Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,201
This.
So if you have done four flights already and are at 300TP, none of the flights in the 1200TP run need to be on BA - you will still make gold.
Also, even if some are AA-ticketed, BA metal will still count (or vice versa).
If your husband's flights between Dublin and London are either on a BA flight number or a BA aircraft (either or both!) and are paid, then those in themselves would get you to the four qualifying flights. To get to 1200 in a single run, that must be the Babybus, which has to be a qualifying flight, and LCY-DUB is not operated by EI as far as I know, so those are your four qualifying flights in any event.
So if you have done four flights already and are at 300TP, none of the flights in the 1200TP run need to be on BA - you will still make gold.
Also, even if some are AA-ticketed, BA metal will still count (or vice versa).
If your husband's flights between Dublin and London are either on a BA flight number or a BA aircraft (either or both!) and are paid, then those in themselves would get you to the four qualifying flights. To get to 1200 in a single run, that must be the Babybus, which has to be a qualifying flight, and LCY-DUB is not operated by EI as far as I know, so those are your four qualifying flights in any event.
#83
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: WAS
Programs: BA Gold, HH
Posts: 673
I don't really have anything to add at this time, but I like reading your collective thought processes.
#84
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
Anybody care to suggest any options for the following. I am very restricted as to dates and trying to combine some work commitments near London with a 13 hour gap in an existing TP run in which I need to get from MAN to LHR.
Looking for a short trip to get a few extra TP if I can make this work.
Sunday 25/1 from Manchester or London to ??? and returning to London same day. Could also start ex-EU if I can get an early morning flight out of Manchester with LCC and therefore just looking to do ex-EU to LHR.
Monday 26/1 from London to Manchester late evening. The last flight from LHR is 19.50
Wednesday 1/4 from Manchester to ??? and return to LHR. Cannot leave Manchester until 09.30 and need to be at LHR by 20.00
Overall, I think this is not going to happen, but would be grateful for any possible suggestions. Think I am more or less looking for an ex-EU return flight to Manchester departing 25/1 with overnight stop in London and returning on 1/4 with an extra flight back to London on 1/4.
Not sure if this makes sense, but if you can give any ideas then that would be appreciated.
Looking for a short trip to get a few extra TP if I can make this work.
Sunday 25/1 from Manchester or London to ??? and returning to London same day. Could also start ex-EU if I can get an early morning flight out of Manchester with LCC and therefore just looking to do ex-EU to LHR.
Monday 26/1 from London to Manchester late evening. The last flight from LHR is 19.50
Wednesday 1/4 from Manchester to ??? and return to LHR. Cannot leave Manchester until 09.30 and need to be at LHR by 20.00
Overall, I think this is not going to happen, but would be grateful for any possible suggestions. Think I am more or less looking for an ex-EU return flight to Manchester departing 25/1 with overnight stop in London and returning on 1/4 with an extra flight back to London on 1/4.
Not sure if this makes sense, but if you can give any ideas then that would be appreciated.
#85
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, M&M, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,223
This.
So if you have done four flights already and are at 300TP, none of the flights in the 1200TP run need to be on BA - you will still make gold.
Also, even if some are AA-ticketed, BA metal will still count (or vice versa).
If your husband's flights between Dublin and London are either on a BA flight number or a BA aircraft (either or both!) and are paid, then those in themselves would get you to the four qualifying flights. To get to 1200 in a single run, that must be the Babybus, which has to be a qualifying flight, and LCY-DUB is not operated by EI as far as I know, so those are your four qualifying flights in any event.
So if you have done four flights already and are at 300TP, none of the flights in the 1200TP run need to be on BA - you will still make gold.
Also, even if some are AA-ticketed, BA metal will still count (or vice versa).
If your husband's flights between Dublin and London are either on a BA flight number or a BA aircraft (either or both!) and are paid, then those in themselves would get you to the four qualifying flights. To get to 1200 in a single run, that must be the Babybus, which has to be a qualifying flight, and LCY-DUB is not operated by EI as far as I know, so those are your four qualifying flights in any event.
#86
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#87
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Programs: GGL (2021-), BA Emerald (1999-2021), SPG Platinum, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 267
Booked my TP run - thanks all.
A brief note to thank a number of you here for helping me with numerous points along the way.. my TP run is now booked DUB-LCY-JFK-PHX-LAS.
Special thanks to Dutch for creating the PNR
Will report on the trip end of March and may need another 460 TPs till Jan 2016.. hope to cover them with work.
Cheers.
Special thanks to Dutch for creating the PNR
Will report on the trip end of March and may need another 460 TPs till Jan 2016.. hope to cover them with work.
Cheers.
#88
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA Gold (OWE), QF Gold, EY Gold, HH Gold, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 76
(Quoted from 2014 thread)
Thanks to all the advice on here I managed to (almost) get to Gold and some sight seeing in the Longbeach area thanks to a spare 24 hours in the US.
Unfortunately I frustratingly am sitting on 1475 TPs rather than a projected 1535 as a AS segment of a SEA-LAX-HNL AA coded flight did not post and the subsequent claim was rejected for both TPs (and Avios? ). I'm going to call through on Monday, anyone have any other advice? And to think my biggest fear was irrops during the bad weather in December.
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
I have received some PMs this morning, and after making some enquiries this is what I believe to be the situation:
1) The BA website - on the link kindly provided by KARFA - clearly says that codeshares on oneworld airlines using Partner metal get TPs and Avios.
2) AS is precisely in this situation. AS is a partner with both AA and BA as it happens, it's not oneworld (yet!) however. AA has a long list of AA coded flights on AS metal, around the Anchorage - Hawaii - Los Angeles triangle - and quite a number outwith that area too.
3) Despite what it says on the website, AA and AS didn't include a TP credit aspect in their codesharing agreement; the pre-existing BA-AS Partnership agreement also doesn't have it in.
4) Therefore when AA process the BA member's travel, it does not award TPs for the service, and they don't credit.
5) If the BAEC member then requests them retrospectively, BA sends it to AA. AA don't play ball, BA has no agreement with AS on the issue.
6) Despite all the above, at least one person around here did get TPs and Avios automatically (namely me).
Now there may be some people getting discretionary TPs from BA due to this silliness, I guess having status will help in that respect, but basically BA's website says one thing, custom and practice is different. Kindly avoid shooting the messenger!
1) The BA website - on the link kindly provided by KARFA - clearly says that codeshares on oneworld airlines using Partner metal get TPs and Avios.
2) AS is precisely in this situation. AS is a partner with both AA and BA as it happens, it's not oneworld (yet!) however. AA has a long list of AA coded flights on AS metal, around the Anchorage - Hawaii - Los Angeles triangle - and quite a number outwith that area too.
3) Despite what it says on the website, AA and AS didn't include a TP credit aspect in their codesharing agreement; the pre-existing BA-AS Partnership agreement also doesn't have it in.
4) Therefore when AA process the BA member's travel, it does not award TPs for the service, and they don't credit.
5) If the BAEC member then requests them retrospectively, BA sends it to AA. AA don't play ball, BA has no agreement with AS on the issue.
6) Despite all the above, at least one person around here did get TPs and Avios automatically (namely me).
Now there may be some people getting discretionary TPs from BA due to this silliness, I guess having status will help in that respect, but basically BA's website says one thing, custom and practice is different. Kindly avoid shooting the messenger!
Unfortunately I frustratingly am sitting on 1475 TPs rather than a projected 1535 as a AS segment of a SEA-LAX-HNL AA coded flight did not post and the subsequent claim was rejected for both TPs (and Avios? ). I'm going to call through on Monday, anyone have any other advice? And to think my biggest fear was irrops during the bad weather in December.
#89
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
(Quoted from 2014 thread)
Thanks to all the advice on here I managed to (almost) get to Gold and some sight seeing in the Longbeach area thanks to a spare 24 hours in the US.
Unfortunately I frustratingly am sitting on 1475 TPs rather than a projected 1535 as a AS segment of a SEA-LAX-HNL AA coded flight did not post and the subsequent claim was rejected for both TPs (and Avios? ). I'm going to call through on Monday, anyone have any other advice? And to think my biggest fear was irrops during the bad weather in December.
Thanks to all the advice on here I managed to (almost) get to Gold and some sight seeing in the Longbeach area thanks to a spare 24 hours in the US.
Unfortunately I frustratingly am sitting on 1475 TPs rather than a projected 1535 as a AS segment of a SEA-LAX-HNL AA coded flight did not post and the subsequent claim was rejected for both TPs (and Avios? ). I'm going to call through on Monday, anyone have any other advice? And to think my biggest fear was irrops during the bad weather in December.