Jan 2, 2015, 8:37 am
Last edit by: theultimateflyer
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Current Promotions of Interest
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
- from DUB to US IJN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,074, MIA - €1,119, LAS - €1,224, LAX - €1,296, HNL - €1,623, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over Easter and summer 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4Z1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €920, MIA - €958, LAS - €1,048, LAX - €1,110, needs to be booked by 2 February, for outbound travel over November and Christmas & New Year 2016, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILR28AP reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from DUB to US ILN8S4E1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,538, MIA - €1,601, LAS - €1,751, LAX - €1,854, HNL - €1,834, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILR21AP reported here, e.g. JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, no stopovers, see linked post for details
- from CPH to US ILN2S4E1 reported here, JFK - £890, MIA - £1,132, ORD - £942, LAX - £1,277, HNL - £1,361, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, allows stopovers for €75, see linked post for details
- ILN2S4Z1 from OSL to HNL (19.5k/21.5k NOK (£1,520/£1,675) via. LON or via. HEL & LON)
PERMITTED 23NOV 15 THROUGH 28NOV 15 OR 22DEC 15 THROUGH
01JAN 16 OR 27MAR 16 THROUGH 31MAR 16 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note the following:
- Current availability is not guaranteed.
- All prices include taxes.
Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked | Price per Tier Point | Total Price | Total Tier Points | Route | Booking Classes | Booking Channel | Credit | Notes (if applicable) | Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
From Europe
17DEC | £0.75/TP | £909 | 1200 | DUB-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-DUB | I/I/A/A/A/A/I/I | aa.com | perthflyer | BA AA
30JUL | £0.93/TP | £335 | 360 | JER-LGW-SSH-LGW-JER | J/I/I/J | ba.com | dom462 | CE | BA
01 NOV | £0.99/TP | £1343 | 1360 | CPH-HEL-LHR-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-CPH | I/I/I/A/P/P/A/I/I/I | ITA Matrix | MrMutton
19 AUG | £1.01/TP | £1,375 (1938 EUR) | 1360 | DUB-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-DUB | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.22/TP | £1,675 (21.5k NOK) | 1360 | OSL-HEL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-HEL-OSL | IIIAAAAIII | OttoMH | J/F | AY BA AA
16 AUG | £1.27/TP | £1,518 (19.5k NOK) | 1200 | OSL-LON-JFK-PHX-HNL-PHX-JFK-LHR-OSL | IIAAAAII | OttoMH | J/F | BA AA
14AUG | £1.31/TP | £470 | 360 | OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL | I-I-I-I | ITA | Flythe96flag | SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) | AY
04 SEP | £1.31/TP | £1,220 (1681 EUR) | 910 | DME-MAD-JFK-LAX-MIA-MAD-DME | all in I | iberia.com | henkybaby | J | BA AA IB | works till 6/16 so far
23AUG | £1.34/TP | £1148 | 860 | DUB-PHL-PHX-LAS-PHX-JFK-LHR,LCY-DUB | I/P/P/P/P/I/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | AA & BA (UD on 747 JFK-LHR)
17AUG | £1.67/TP | £1408 |840 |BHX-JFK-PHX-LAS & back | I-A-A-A-A-I | aa.com |Swiss Tony | AA ski slope bed on TATL | AA
26JUL | £1.81/TP | £72.70 | 40 | MAD-FRA | Z | lan.com | Prospero | 787 flat bed | LA
23NOV | £1.89/TP | £377 | 200 | DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t | I-I-I-I-I-I | ITA | Lorcancoyle | IM0B IB DUB to SVQ | BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
17 AUG | £1.89/TP | £1818 | 960 | OSL-LON-KUL//SIN-SYD/SYD-PER/PER-SYD-SIN/SIN-LHR-OSL | BugAlugs | J | BA QF | INCSALE ended 14thSep - (Applied GUF via TA (moves J to F on BA longhaul and scores 1260 TPS in total)
31 DEC | £1.91/TP | £1220 | 640 | AMS-LHR-MIA-SCL // EZE-JFK-LHR-BCN | J/I/I-I/I/J | AA.com | nufnuf77 (can also return to LHR for £20 less but 40TP less
13NOV | £2.56/TP | £410 | 160 | LHR-HEL | ? | BA.com | Lorcancoyle | wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back | BA
1JAN | £1.85/TP | £444 | 240 | JER-LGW/LHR-HEL | J/I/I/J | ITA Matrix | flatlander | Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
24NOV | £1.91/TP | £765.00 | 400 | BUD-DOH-SHJ | I/A/I/A | QR.com | Wozza2404 | A320 | QR
7DEC | £2.24/TP | £942 | 420 | MAD-MIA-SXM-CLT-JFK-LHR | I/I/I/A/I | ticketed on aa.com | megaloman | other routings possible earning more TPs could have lower the price with added LHR-CDG leg to £865 (£2.06/TP)
22JAN | £2.29/TP | £640 | 280 | FCO-CMB-FCO | I/I | book on SriLankan website | theultimateflyer
From North, Central and South America
31JUL | £0.39/TP | £484 | 1240 | HNL-LAX-BOS-MIA-BAQ-MIA-PHL-LAX-HNL | AAAIIAAA | ITA Matrix | Pawel Siewko | AA
16OCT | £0.55/TP | £298.50 | 540 | JFK-LAX-DEN-LAX-JFK | P-P-P-P | aa.com | Calum | AA A321t F seat between JFK & LAX (FARE GONE)
16JUL | £0.57/TP | £554 | 980 | LAX-LAS-PHX-PHL-CLT-TPA-MIA-PTY-MIA-PHL-PHX-LAS-LAX | PPPPPPIIPPPP | aa.com | Airprox | AA + US
27JUL | £0.80/TP | £15.94 | 20 | VVC-BOG-MDE | A | lan.com | JohnnyColombia | A is economy on LA | LA
08NOV | £0.84/TP | £772.50 | 920 | KOA-LAX-CLT-SJU-CLT-LAX-KOA | AAIIAA | aa.com | Lappe | Same day turnarounds available
30SEP | £0.87/TP | £808.00 | 920 | BOG-MIA-LAX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOG | I-P-P-P-P-I | aa.com | JohnnyColombia | No comments
20SEP | £1.00/TP | £663.20 | 660 | LGA-BOS-LAX-PHX-LAX-BOS-LGA | P-P-P-P-P-P | americanairlines.co.uk | njf63 | TCON on 737 so not too comfortable but good availability next Mar/Apr
21AUG | £1.05 | £253 | 240 | BOS-PHL-PIT-PHL-BOS | PPPP | aa.com | Simon Schus | AA op by US
02NOV | £1.27/TP | £1250 | 980 | MCO-MIA-LAX-HNL | A | AA | Mr 1A
05AUG | £1.37/TP | £578 | 420 | LAS-PHL-LAS | A/P | aa.com | Lucanesque | First | AA op by US
28JUL | £1.43/TP | £400 | 280 | SCL-IPC-SCL | Z | lan.com - Chilean version | moonman85 | 787 flat bed | LAN
06NOV | £1.67/TP | £66.00 | 40 | JFK-YYZ | Z | tam.com.br | frb98mf | Fifth Freedom flight every Wed/Fri/Sun, 767 flat bed
13NOV | £1.06/TP | £705 | 660 | RIC-CLT-PHL-PHX-PHL-CLT-RIC | A | AA.com | wenzlydale | 2 trips this year - mixture of A320s and B757s not a lot of food offered but all the G&Ts you could wish for
07JAN|£1.24/TP | £668 | 540 | SEA-MIA-ATL-CLT-SEA | P/P/P/P | aa.com | EsherFlyer | 24h transcon bounce. All I could fit in...
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18AUG | £1.25/TP | £440.00 | 360 | BKK-KUL-ICN Return | Z | www.malaysiaairlines.com | Wozza2404 | A330 Angle Flat for long haul sectors | MH
12OCT | £1.68/TP | £1,546 | 920 | TLV-MAD-LHR-JFK-LAX-JFK-LHR-MAD-TLV | I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia.com | frb98mf | Business (bonus: A330/A340 on the TLV legs!) | IB
24NOV | £1.43/TP | £803 | 560 | CTS-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | zeltergiset | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
06JAN | £1.86/TP | £856 | 460 | HND-HKG-DPS-HKG-CTS | I/I/I/I | cathaypacific.com | Gastrocnemius | One 24hr+ stopover in HKG allowed | CX
11JAN | £1.26/TP | £707 | 560 | KTM-KUL-TPE-KUL-KTM | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
11JAN | £1.68/TP | £940 | 560 | TPE-KUL-KTM-KUL-TPE | D/D/D/D | malaysiaairlines.com | zeltergiset | MH
From Africa
11AUG | £0.89/TP | £748 | 840 | ACC-LHR-MIA-LAX-MIA-LHR-ACC | I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I | iberia call centre | njf63 | CW / AA J | IB
15NOV | £2.00/TP | £1200 | 600 | CPT-DOH-JFK-DOH-CPT | I/I/I/I | QR Website | Calum | QR J on the B788/A350 & 46hrs of flying | QR
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Prospero's guide to using ITA matrix in post 3 (here along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or less
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year)
Or a slightly more interesting fun run
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VLL via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520
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Historic information
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 master thread
Jan 2, 2015, 11:28 am
#31
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 11
Thanks Alexwuk -
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
Jan 2, 2015, 11:32 am
#32
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 215
Thanks Alexwuk -
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
DUB-LAX
LAX-SEA
SEA-MIA
MIA-DUB
The site will give the available routings between the airports.
Jan 2, 2015, 11:47 am
#33
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
The problem I see with current format is that wiki accumulates a lot of duplicate/outdated entries, while not providing essential information, such as allowed travel period and the end date of the sale. In all recent cases good TP run opportunities were associated with some specific sale/fare code, so it feels natural (at least to me 
) to organize the information that way. It also makes it simple to keep it up to date.
) to organize the information that way. It also makes it simple to keep it up to date.I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
Jan 2, 2015, 11:54 am
#34
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: ±38,000 feet
Programs: LH HON, BA GGL, AF Plat, EK Plat
Posts: 6,428
I agree that the entries in the wiki should be dated.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
I think I28SALE has its own thread already, KARFA has organised that I believe
Jan 2, 2015, 11:56 am
#35
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Thanks Alexwuk -
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
As there are nine flights invovled, I couldn't use the online booking form at AA (the maximum allowed being six). Can it be done over the phone with AA? Or would that mean booking the BA flights on AA codes? Sorry - I really am a beginner at all this!
Jan 2, 2015, 12:10 pm
#36
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I agree that the entries in the wiki should be dated.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
To be honest, I do wonder how much people get from it. Aside from the issue of keeping it up to date, I suspect those who aren't that conversant with all this stuff yet quite get it while those who have some experience probably don't need it. I'm not advocating doing away with it but a re-think would be useful to all.
Jan 2, 2015, 12:19 pm
#37
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That makes a lot of sense to me.
To be honest, I do wonder how much people get from it. Aside from the issue of keeping it up to date, I suspect those who aren't that conversant with all this stuff yet quite get it while those who have some experience probably don't need it. I'm not advocating doing away with it but a re-think would be useful to all.
To be honest, I do wonder how much people get from it. Aside from the issue of keeping it up to date, I suspect those who aren't that conversant with all this stuff yet quite get it while those who have some experience probably don't need it. I'm not advocating doing away with it but a re-think would be useful to all.
But I wonder how many newbies do read the wiki "cover to cover"—and how useful it would be to them if they did. (Any lurking newbies, do feel free to jump in and help us!
)
Jan 2, 2015, 12:21 pm
#38
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: GGL/CCR
Posts: 1,899
Maybe if all booked runs and prices were posted so people knew what to aim for? 
Jan 2, 2015, 12:45 pm
#39
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 333
DUB to North America
Fare code: ILR28AP
Travel periods: Jul 1 - Aug 31, Nov 22 - Nov 29, Dec 23 - Jan 2, Mar 27 - Apr 12.
Rules: no stopovers, advanced purchase 28 days, minimum stay: Sat night.
Example itineraries:
<couple of examples with prices, TPs earned and matrix routing codes>
It would be also very helpful if everyone posting specific itineraries would include fare code (as text) somewhere in the post, so that it would be easy to find discussions related to this particular fare code.
Jan 2, 2015, 1:22 pm
#40
Join Date: Feb 2014
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I was thinking that it would be most useful to have entries similar to this one:
DUB to North America
Fare code: ILR28AP
Travel periods: Jul 1 - Aug 31, Nov 22 - Nov 29, Dec 23 - Jan 2, Mar 27 - Apr 12.
Rules: no stopovers, advanced purchase 28 days, minimum stay: Sat night.
Example itineraries:
<couple of examples with prices, TPs earned and matrix routing codes>
It would be also very helpful if everyone posting specific itineraries would include fare code (as text) somewhere in the post, so that it would be easy to find discussions related to this particular fare code.
DUB to North America
Fare code: ILR28AP
Travel periods: Jul 1 - Aug 31, Nov 22 - Nov 29, Dec 23 - Jan 2, Mar 27 - Apr 12.
Rules: no stopovers, advanced purchase 28 days, minimum stay: Sat night.
Example itineraries:
<couple of examples with prices, TPs earned and matrix routing codes>
It would be also very helpful if everyone posting specific itineraries would include fare code (as text) somewhere in the post, so that it would be easy to find discussions related to this particular fare code.
) But I am all for it - it would be easy to understand and clear to everybody with all necessary details. ^
Jan 2, 2015, 1:28 pm
#41
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Spire, Tastecard
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I agree that the entries in the wiki should be dated.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
I also think the wiki is very cumbersome and long. Yes it's a useful reference tool but it isn't, I would venture, helpful to the beginners. It might be a good idea to split out "big" ideas like the recent I28SALE into its own thread as they arise. We would need the help of moderators to do this.
It is a nice reference tool. So the codeshares for BA1 are listed there which is helpful to me. I could keep them in a note on my computer but then I like to think it might be helpful for others.
But I wonder how many newbies do read the wiki "cover to cover"—and how useful it would be to them if they did. (Any lurking newbies, do feel free to jump in and help us!)
But I wonder how many newbies do read the wiki "cover to cover"—and how useful it would be to them if they did. (Any lurking newbies, do feel free to jump in and help us!
)I was thinking that it would be most useful to have entries similar to this one:
DUB to North America
Fare code: ILR28AP
Travel periods: Jul 1 - Aug 31, Nov 22 - Nov 29, Dec 23 - Jan 2, Mar 27 - Apr 12.
Rules: no stopovers, advanced purchase 28 days, minimum stay: Sat night.
Example itineraries:
<couple of examples with prices, TPs earned and matrix routing codes>
It would be also very helpful if everyone posting specific itineraries would include fare code (as text) somewhere in the post, so that it would be easy to find discussions related to this particular fare code.
DUB to North America
Fare code: ILR28AP
Travel periods: Jul 1 - Aug 31, Nov 22 - Nov 29, Dec 23 - Jan 2, Mar 27 - Apr 12.
Rules: no stopovers, advanced purchase 28 days, minimum stay: Sat night.
Example itineraries:
<couple of examples with prices, TPs earned and matrix routing codes>
It would be also very helpful if everyone posting specific itineraries would include fare code (as text) somewhere in the post, so that it would be easy to find discussions related to this particular fare code.
having said that, the regional listings are also useful. I am for example looking for an ex SFO run in the summer (and haven't come across a good deal).
Having said all of that, apart from the specific BA sales period (where we know the dates by when tickets need to be bought), a lot of the other 'finds' tend to be outdated almost as soon as they make the wiki. So I guess it's the balance between "handy information" (though that could also be included in posts 1 and 2) and "live information".
Happy TP Collecting in 2015 everyone!
Jan 2, 2015, 1:30 pm
#42
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
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and a big "thank you" and well done ^ to Prospero for putting the thread and first few posts together again - much appreciated by all of us.
And loving the new maps / graphics.
And loving the new maps / graphics.
Jan 2, 2015, 1:46 pm
#43
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 47
Suggestions from LAX?
So a couple of days ago I got my first "PROPER" TP run sorted out - DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB thank you very much!
I'm now looking for ideas to add into an existing mini TP run I already had booked.
I'm booked LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-JFK-HEL-LHR. I'll have 2 nights in LAX, however I land at 2145 on 3th April & leave there at 0700 on 5th April.
Is there any other wee trips (without being prohibitively expensive or exhausting) you think I could squeeze in the 32.25 hours I'm in LAX?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
I'm now looking for ideas to add into an existing mini TP run I already had booked.
I'm booked LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-JFK-HEL-LHR. I'll have 2 nights in LAX, however I land at 2145 on 3th April & leave there at 0700 on 5th April.
Is there any other wee trips (without being prohibitively expensive or exhausting) you think I could squeeze in the 32.25 hours I'm in LAX?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
Jan 2, 2015, 2:03 pm
#44
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold & GGL & CCR, HH Diam, Bonvoy Titanium, IHG Spire, Tastecard
Posts: 7,549
So a couple of days ago I got my first "PROPER" TP run sorted out - DUB-LCY-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LCY-DUB thank you very much!
I'm now looking for ideas to add into an existing mini TP run I already had booked.
I'm booked LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-JFK-HEL-LHR. I'll have 2 nights in LAX, however I land at 2145 on 3th April & leave there at 0700 on 5th April.
Is there any other wee trips (without being prohibitively expensive or exhausting) you think I could squeeze in the 32.25 hours I'm in LAX?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
I'm now looking for ideas to add into an existing mini TP run I already had booked.
I'm booked LHR-HEL-JFK-LAX-JFK-HEL-LHR. I'll have 2 nights in LAX, however I land at 2145 on 3th April & leave there at 0700 on 5th April.
Is there any other wee trips (without being prohibitively expensive or exhausting) you think I could squeeze in the 32.25 hours I'm in LAX?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
yes, there are great runs to be had ex westcoast. i did a tiring but fun SFO LAX MIA CUN MIA LAX MIA CUN MIA LAX SFO last year though that took 51 hours. you should easily be able to get a LAX LAS/MCO MIA PTY/GCM/CUN/SJU/STT run into 32 hours.
I'd have a play with matrix (or await suggestions from others on this). I've been looking at ex SFO runs in the summer and PTY, GCM and CUN seem to be best at the moment (though I really want to try STT). they aren't coming out 'amazing' at my dates (I got the SFO LAX MIA CUN return for £498 last year (and then nestled in the rest)) - though 1TP/£1 is still pretty good (and would be considered very good if it weren't for the current BA sales that over 1/1 or slightly below).
enjoy your travels and welcome again.
Jan 2, 2015, 2:13 pm
#45
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Cumbria
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR, Hilton Diamond, Starbucks Gold
Posts: 4,510
Fairly new, so I will give my slant on this...
I found the thread invaluable with the information in the wiki giving a good starting point. I am fairly intelligent and was able to use the thread to help replicate TP runs on ita (which I also had to get to grips with). Did take a moment getting used to the format of the runs and perhaps a little more detail explaining what each part of the code meant would be useful. For example the one below.
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
However, I would say that this is more because I was starting more or less from scratch, so fare codes was also something I had to pick up. As a new poster this was my responsibility to find out, whereas seasoned posters/flyers would be much more aware of this.
What would be beneficial would be dates of booking/flights as some of the flights will be out of date and no amount of trying will replicate these fares. I wonder how long some of the runs have been included for? Although, they do provide a solid basis for possible runs even if the same prices cannot be achieved.
However, despite the value of the wiki and the opening post which I have used many times in developing my understanding, what is of more value to a new poster is the responses that are given by the regular contributors on this thread. As long as this thread (and the BAEC forum in general) maintains the positive approach to new posters (and those new to TP runs!) then I think that is the most important aspect. No amount of information or changing the format in the wiki will replicate the value of the responses given by posters on here.
I found the thread invaluable with the information in the wiki giving a good starting point. I am fairly intelligent and was able to use the thread to help replicate TP runs on ita (which I also had to get to grips with). Did take a moment getting used to the format of the runs and perhaps a little more detail explaining what each part of the code meant would be useful. For example the one below.
£0.75/TP | £685 | 920TPs | HNL-LAX-MIA-SAP-MIA-LAX-HNL | A/A/I/I/A/A | aa.com | JimmyTheJock | AA
However, I would say that this is more because I was starting more or less from scratch, so fare codes was also something I had to pick up. As a new poster this was my responsibility to find out, whereas seasoned posters/flyers would be much more aware of this.
What would be beneficial would be dates of booking/flights as some of the flights will be out of date and no amount of trying will replicate these fares. I wonder how long some of the runs have been included for? Although, they do provide a solid basis for possible runs even if the same prices cannot be achieved.
However, despite the value of the wiki and the opening post which I have used many times in developing my understanding, what is of more value to a new poster is the responses that are given by the regular contributors on this thread. As long as this thread (and the BAEC forum in general) maintains the positive approach to new posters (and those new to TP runs!) then I think that is the most important aspect. No amount of information or changing the format in the wiki will replicate the value of the responses given by posters on here.