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Seating confirmed: 3-4-3 on the 777 / 77W ... boooooooo
May 12, 2012, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by sxf24
If that extra inch is really that important to you, by all means, fly another airline.
May 12, 2012, 7:49 pm
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We DO have some idea. We know it's 3-4-3 and that itself is a HUGE piece of info. There is experience out there with other 3-4-3 configs and the best comment I have seen so far was "it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be" - I have yet to hear anyone say it was "good." We know that no no matter what they do with the seat, there will now be 10 shoulders sitting side-by-side. Yes - maybe it will be so much better than every other 3-4-3 that we'll all be pleasantly surprised. I wish AA would share some info (like the actual seat width or whatever else they think will make this seat a reasonable choice). Even some speculation about how AA might make this actually work would be nice.
To be blunt, people can generally address width, height is something that cannot be dealt with
May 12, 2012, 10:13 pm
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Honestly...yes. Aisle seat and an hour flight is MUCH-different than being in a tube for 14 hours with NO shoulder room.
Hop on one of these if you don't believe me. It is hard to believe it is legal. I will do A LOT for a bargain. HOWEVER, I will NEVER step foot on a 10 abreast 777 - even if it was free.
Hop on one of these if you don't believe me. It is hard to believe it is legal. I will do A LOT for a bargain. HOWEVER, I will NEVER step foot on a 10 abreast 777 - even if it was free.
May 12, 2012, 10:37 pm
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It does, IMO. I'd personally go out of my way to avoid doing that, and as a TPAC flyer that means flying an Asian airline (not even the Chinese airlines do that).
May 12, 2012, 10:59 pm
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May 12, 2012, 11:28 pm
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In the end, there are plenty of airlines in the world if one fails to meet ones desires
May 12, 2012, 11:31 pm
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One of the problems I have with AA, and a prime reason for no longer using them on long haul despite my 2+ million miles collected is they have a HUGE product gap between their current $1,000 coach and the $5,000 business products. Degrading coach, offering what is basically current coach as a step up and simultaneously pushing business higher because it now takes up more space does nothing for that gap.
I think that they have a huge product gap between their business class and the business class of airlines I generally use ( ditto for 1st class )
It sounds like they are going to offer a nicer economy offering over the 3-4-3 layout for those prepared to pay a bit extra without needing to go the whole way to business.
May 12, 2012, 11:33 pm
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Not all of us can choose the airline(s) we fly, so there are good reasons to push back if yours decides to implement a cruddy product. And yes, it's entirely possible and reasonable to extrapolate based on past experience and simple arithmetic. 3-4-3 on a 777 has to suck worse than 2-5-2 (which in turn is a cabin I'd rather avoid if possible); there's no way around it.
May 12, 2012, 11:42 pm
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Not all of us can choose the airline(s) we fly, so there are good reasons to push back if yours decides to implement a cruddy product. And yes, it's entirely possible and reasonable to extrapolate based on past experience and simple arithmetic. 3-4-3 on a 777 has to suck worse than 2-5-2 (which in turn is a cabin I'd rather avoid if possible); there's no way around it.
Criticising something that doesn't yet exist has got to be close to the ultimate in criticism with no evidence and on par with trying to ban movies that haven't seen because the people trying to ban it "know" it is bad
May 12, 2012, 11:49 pm
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May 12, 2012, 11:49 pm
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But just to be clear, are you suggesting that 10-across seating might be equal to or better than 9-across? If so, I'm genuinely interested in knowing how that's possible.
May 12, 2012, 11:51 pm
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May 12, 2012, 11:55 pm
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There is not that high a % of customers that are forced to fly AA I posit. If nothing else were to change other than the reduction, then indeed it would be worse but everything is pure speculation with no evidence to use
Criticising something that doesn't yet exist has got to be close to the ultimate in criticism with no evidence and on par with trying to ban movies that haven't seen because the people trying to ban it "know" it is bad
Criticising something that doesn't yet exist has got to be close to the ultimate in criticism with no evidence and on par with trying to ban movies that haven't seen because the people trying to ban it "know" it is bad
I sincerely hope that AA will find a way to make this concept palatable with their implementation. But so far nobody has even been able to speculate how they will do that - the math seems to indicate that it's virtually impossible. Yes, we'll all wait and see. But I and others have a good reason to be concerned.
May 13, 2012, 12:06 am
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When the choice is mine, I will pay a few hundred dollars extra for a long-haul economy seat that acknowledges I have knees and that I'm as wide as my shoulders, not my hips. Looks like AA will have to come off my list of options.
May 13, 2012, 12:24 am
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When compared to 9-abreast, I am quite sure that 10-abreast will not be a refreshingly intellectual romantic comedy with unexpected character depth, stunning cinematography, with a cliffhanger ending that would make Stephen King squeal.
But I am quite sure it will be more cramped and miserable. For this, I cite common sense and deductive reasoning.
This really reminds me of the Ali G episode where he goes to an anti-abortion rally and says they should try it before they say they don't like it, just like his flame broiled Whopper revelation.