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Alaska Air Group to Acquire Virgin America [Discussion from April 4, 2016]

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Old Mar 29, 2017, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by makfan
I wondered about that. Of course AA allows ordering from T-30d to T-24h, but hardly ever upgrades anyone from the list these days until a few hours prior.
My guess is AA normally orders a set amount of meals per flight (50/50 or whatever) and the "orders" placed online are merely a reservation for that meal. A lot of times the FA just asks what I want even if I've reserved something.

Will be interesting how the AS system looks.
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 7:44 pm
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I tried searching for "combining miles" and it came up with nothing.

Has there been any speculation/announcement as to if you hold Virgin miles will they get converted to Alaska (like when AA bought USAirways?)

Just wondering if so, if it makes sense to quick apply for the Virgin America credit card and rack up some miles?
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by hurnik
I tried searching for "combining miles" and it came up with nothing.

Has there been any speculation/announcement as to if you hold Virgin miles will they get converted to Alaska (like when AA bought USAirways?)

Just wondering if so, if it makes sense to quick apply for the Virgin America credit card and rack up some miles?
https://www.virginamerica.com/cms/al...irgin-top-faqs
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by tusphotog
My guess is AA normally orders a set amount of meals per flight (50/50 or whatever) and the "orders" placed online are merely a reservation for that meal.
The catering mix can be adjusted based on reservations.
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 9:20 pm
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Alaska ending double daily SFO-PSP service, VX going 1x to 2x. The first schedule update with A320s increasing west coast service, 737s moving to longer distance flying?
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by ucdtim17
Alaska ending double daily SFO-PSP service, VX going 1x to 2x. The first schedule update with A320s increasing west coast service, 737s moving to longer distance flying?
It makes sense, the A320s become the 734 analogs in the AS system.
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Old Apr 23, 2017, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
It makes sense, the A320s become the 734 analogs in the AS system.
Ooh I do not want them SEA-ANC before upgrades to F start...
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 4:42 am
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Originally Posted by beckoa
Ooh I do not want them SEA-ANC before upgrades to F start...
I doubt there will be much in the way of crossfleeting before SOC, and even then I would expect they'll change the config to 12F/Y+/Y pretty fast. VX flies very low density.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
VX flies very low density.
They do? They seem in line with at least AA, UA, and some of DL:

VX A320: 146-149 seats
AA A320: 150 seats
UA A320: 150 seats
DL A320: 150-160 seats

I'd be surprised if AS put in more than 150 seats in the A320. Any more than 150 seats, and they need a fourth FA.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by channa
They do? They seem in line with at least AA, UA, and some of DL:

VX A320: 146-149 seats
AA A320: 150 seats
UA A320: 150 seats
DL A320: 150-160 seats

I'd be surprised if AS put in more than 150 seats in the A320. Any more than 150 seats, and they need a fourth FA.
I would imagine that they reduce some of the space that F takes up... and use it for Premium Class.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
I would imagine that they reduce some of the space that F takes up... and use it for Premium Class.
But they're adding a row. 2 x 55" VX rows = 110" vs. 3 x 41" AS rows = 123", AS's F cabin may end up having a bigger footprint than VX's F cabin. And AS likes to do closets. VX does not, so add some space there.

The only carrier that has more than 150 seats in an A320 is DL, with small pitch in F, which is not up to AS's new spec., and a very small Comfort+ section.
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Old Apr 24, 2017, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by channa
But they're adding a row. 2 x 55" VX rows = 110" vs. 3 x 41" AS rows = 123", AS's F cabin may end up having a bigger footprint than VX's F cabin. And AS likes to do closets. VX does not, so add some space there.

The only carrier that has more than 150 seats in an A320 is DL, with small pitch in F, which is not up to AS's new spec., and a very small Comfort+ section.
jetblue has 162 in their new configuration. They previously had 150, which was a pretty spacious layout with no business/first class.
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Old Apr 27, 2017, 10:25 am
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More updates on AS elite flying on VX. Elites can score first class upgrades on VX starting in Fall 2018:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr..._source=ALASKA
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Old Apr 27, 2017, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by solewalker
More updates on AS elite flying on VX. Elites can score first class upgrades on VX starting in Fall 2018:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr..._source=ALASKA
Direct link to "elite benefits schedule" (or click on the middle tab at the page above):

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr...-schedule.aspx
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Old Apr 27, 2017, 10:41 am
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Originally Posted by solewalker
More updates on AS elite flying on VX. Elites can score first class upgrades on VX starting in Fall 2018:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/tr..._source=ALASKA
And two checked bags free for AS MVPs on VX is now a published benefit.

AS Visa companion fare can now be used on VX, and non-elite credit card holders now get a free checked bag on VX. ^

(I think these benefits are all new, at least as published benefits, but I may be wrong.)

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