Jul 21, 2015, 3:15 am
Last edit by: FN-GM
LIST OF ROUTES/FLIGHTS WITH BEST SEATS - update 21 April, 2017. Flights looked up for week of June 12, 2017
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Boeing 777-200ER in modification process : 2/25
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Boeing 777-200ER 312 seats (28J) J-W-Y with new cabins : 3/25
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Boeing 777-300ER 468 seats J-W-Y "CIO" without new cabins : 12/43
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
IMPORTANT NOTES :
- This is the list of "BEST"-operated routes for a typical week during the summer season in June 2017.
- Some of the routes listed below may see a non-BEST aircraft operating the flight some day(s) of the week
- Last minute aircraft substitution is always possible
NORTH AMERICA
- BOS (AF334/333) : on days the flight operates with a B772
- IAD (AF026/027)
- IAH (AF636/639)
- JFK (AF032/019) : operating from ORY
- JFK (AF022/023)
- JFK (AF008/009)
- LAX (AF072/073)
- LAX-PPT (AF076/077)
- SFO (AF082/083)
- YUL (AF342/345) : on certain days
- YUL (AF344/345 B787-9)
- YVR (AF374/379)
CENTRAL & LATIN AMERICAS
- EZE/MVD (AF394/393)
- EZE (AF228/229)
- SCL (AF406/407) : on certain days
- GRU (AF456/459)
- GRU (AF454/457)
- PTY (AF474/475)
- CAY (AF852/853)
- CUN (AF650/651)
- HAV (AF820/825)
ASIA
- BOM (AF218/217)
- HKG (AF188/185)
- HND (AF274/293)
- KIX (AF292/291)
- NRT (AF276/275)
- NRT (AF272/271)
- PEK (AF382/381)
- PVG (AF112/117)
- PVG (AF116/111) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- CAN (AF102/107)
- SIN (AF256/257)
- SGN (AF258/257)
AFRICA
- ABJ (AF702/703) : only on days when the flight is B777-operated (A380 has no BEST cabins at the moment)
- BKO-ABJ (AF520/521)
- ACC (AF780/781)
- DLA-NSI (AF982)
- BGF-NSI (AF775/775)
- NSI (AF900/901)
- LBV (AF976/977)
- LAD (AF928/929)
MIDDLE EAST
- BEY (AF566/565)
- CAI (AF570/567 B787-9)
- DXB (AF662/643)
CONFIGURATIONS OF THE B777 FLEET
Note : this list is not up-to-date
Boeing 777-200ER 309 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 4/25
Code:
F-GSPA – NEV4 F-GSPE – NEV4 F-GSPM – NEV4 F-GSPZ – NEV4
Code:
F-GSPD F-GSPP
Boeing 777-200ER 280 seats or 316 seats "quick change" J-W-Y with new cabins : 16/25
Code:
F-GSPB – BEST F-GSPC – BEST F-GSPF – BEST F-GSPG – BEST F-GSPH – BEST F-GSPI – BEST F-GSPJ - BEST F-GSPK – BEST F-GSPQ – BEST F-GSPR – BEST F-GSPS – BEST F-GSPT – BEST F-GSPU – BEST F-GSPV – BEST F-GSPX – BEST F-GSPY – BESTor
Code:
F-GSPL – BEST F-GSPO – BEST F-GSPN – BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 303 seats P-J-W-Y without new cabins : 0/43
Code:
All Converted to BEST
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y without new cabins : 5/43
Code:
F-GSQD – NEV4 F-GSQE – NEV4 F-GZNH – NEV4 F-GZNI – NEV4 F-GZNJ - NEV4 F-GZNK – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process : 0/43
Boeing 777-300ER 296 seats or 322 seats "quick change" P-J-W-Y with new cabins : 20/43
Code:
F-GSQA – BEST F-GSQB – BEST F-GSQC – BEST F-GSQF – BEST F-GSQG – BEST F-GSQH – BEST F-GSQI – BEST F-GSQJ – BEST F-GSQK – BEST F-GSQL – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GSQM – BEST F-GSQU - BEST F-GSQV – BEST F-GSQY – BEST F-GZNA – BEST F-GZNB - BEST F-GZNC – BEST F-GZND - BEST F-GZNE – BESTor
Code:
F-GSQN – NEV4 F-GSQO – NEV4 F-GSQP – NEV4 F-GSQR – NEV4 F-GSQS – NEV4 F-GSQT – NEV4 F-GSQX – NEV4 F-GZNF – NEV4 F-GZNG – NEV4 F-GZNL – NEV4 F-GZNN – NEV4 F-GZNO – NEV4
Boeing 777-300ER 381 seats J-W-Y with old J and new W-Y : 6/43
Code:
F-GZNP – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2015) F-GZNQ – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in May 2015) F-GZNR – NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in November 2015) F-GZNS - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNT - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in March 2016) F-GZNU - NEV4 (delivered new from Boeing in April 2016)
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Feb 3, 2016, 11:29 am
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It's my understanding that apart of one bird (F-GSQU) the entire 77W/772 fleet is either configured with Best J or NEV4. Can someone confirm?
If so, it's great news from a J pax perspective.
If so, it's great news from a J pax perspective.
Feb 3, 2016, 1:09 pm
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I can't imagine in which state it is
Feb 3, 2016, 1:16 pm
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Think about it as your farewell flight of the NEV3 product leaving AF's fleet. I'm sure you will manage but if you ever feel unlucky just think of the people in Y
Maybe you will get lucky and be offered a cheap upgrade to P. I think they usually sell them for around 900-1000 Euros.
Feb 3, 2016, 1:20 pm
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Feb 3, 2016, 8:56 pm
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I am surprised that no one can explain the discrepancy between the official AF announcement regarding the number of retrofitted planes and the wiki (which is more optimistic). According to AF there are more than one 77W with P not retrofitted.
I will not fly AF longhaul until I know for sure that all 77W with P have been retrofitted.
Anyway, NEV3 will still be present on a few A380s, so Goldorak might have other experiences with NEV3.
I will not fly AF longhaul until I know for sure that all 77W with P have been retrofitted.
Anyway, NEV3 will still be present on a few A380s, so Goldorak might have other experiences with NEV3.
Feb 4, 2016, 12:43 am
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I will try to see the registration of the plane, to check if it matches with the wiki.
Feb 4, 2016, 1:06 am
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For the registration number, you can look at a site like flightradar24 after you took your flight.
Feb 4, 2016, 6:29 am
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I am surprised that no one can explain the discrepancy between the official AF announcement regarding the number of retrofitted planes and the wiki (which is more optimistic). According to AF there are more than one 77W with P not retrofitted.
I will not fly AF longhaul until I know for sure that all 77W with P have been retrofitted.
Anyway, NEV3 will still be present on a few A380s, so Goldorak might have other experiences with NEV3.
I will not fly AF longhaul until I know for sure that all 77W with P have been retrofitted.
Anyway, NEV3 will still be present on a few A380s, so Goldorak might have other experiences with NEV3.
Feb 4, 2016, 8:59 pm
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That does not change its awful set of cushion angles that guarantees serious pains to my back for days. Never again for me if it can be avoided, hence no AF A380 for me
And it's so easy to find flat beds on any destination nowadays .....
Feb 5, 2016, 2:44 am
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The NEV3 on A380 is the exact same model as on 77W. The seat might be a bit younger but not by much (A380 introduced in 2009 if I remember correctly) and there is no risk of a middle seat.
That does not change its awful set of cushion angles that guarantees serious pains to my back for days. Never again for me if it can be avoided, hence no AF A380 for me
And it's so easy to find flat beds on any destination nowadays .....
That does not change its awful set of cushion angles that guarantees serious pains to my back for days. Never again for me if it can be avoided, hence no AF A380 for me
And it's so easy to find flat beds on any destination nowadays .....
If you are into an adventure I dare you to try LY 763 recliner business class seats at a 2-2-2 configuration. Had an important meeting in PEK a few months ago and couldn't waste time with a connection, the only option was the direct LY flight. After 12 hours on it I will never complain again about a NEV3 or even on a slippery slope seat
makes the old KL product look good in comparison.
Feb 10, 2016, 11:52 pm
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Obviously, some info in the wiki are wrong. Indeed, as per my post quoted above and as per the info of the wiki, I was expecting to fly F-GSQU. But finally, it was F-GZND, which is supposed to be BEST according to the wiki. I can tell you it was not BEST at all
. It was a 77W with the old cabins (303 seats, 2 rows of P and NEV3 J seats). I just flew it on JNB-CDG. I could modify the wiki of course, but I prefer to let you control it as you superbly and kindly did it 
Feb 11, 2016, 6:35 pm
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Dear Bodory
Obviously, some info in the wiki are wrong. Indeed, as per my post quoted above and as per the info of the wiki, I was expecting to fly F-GSQU. But finally, it was F-GZND, which is supposed to be BEST according to the wiki. I can tell you it was not BEST at all . It was a 77W with the old cabins (303 seats, 2 rows of P and NEV3 J seats). I just flew it on JNB-CDG. I could modify the wiki of course, but I prefer to let you control it as you superbly and kindly did it
Obviously, some info in the wiki are wrong. Indeed, as per my post quoted above and as per the info of the wiki, I was expecting to fly F-GSQU. But finally, it was F-GZND, which is supposed to be BEST according to the wiki. I can tell you it was not BEST at all
. It was a 77W with the old cabins (303 seats, 2 rows of P and NEV3 J seats). I just flew it on JNB-CDG. I could modify the wiki of course, but I prefer to let you control it as you superbly and kindly did it
Feb 12, 2016, 1:06 pm
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Dear Bodory
Obviously, some info in the wiki are wrong. Indeed, as per my post quoted above and as per the info of the wiki, I was expecting to fly F-GSQU. But finally, it was F-GZND, which is supposed to be BEST according to the wiki. I can tell you it was not BEST at all . It was a 77W with the old cabins (303 seats, 2 rows of P and NEV3 J seats). I just flew it on JNB-CDG. I could modify the wiki of course, but I prefer to let you control it as you superbly and kindly did it
Obviously, some info in the wiki are wrong. Indeed, as per my post quoted above and as per the info of the wiki, I was expecting to fly F-GSQU. But finally, it was F-GZND, which is supposed to be BEST according to the wiki. I can tell you it was not BEST at all
. It was a 77W with the old cabins (303 seats, 2 rows of P and NEV3 J seats). I just flew it on JNB-CDG. I could modify the wiki of course, but I prefer to let you control it as you superbly and kindly did it How was your seat change handled? or were you in first so it didn't make a lot of difference? As you may recall, I am concerned about my J seat in April from IAH that shows as BEST but is currently being flown as NEV (something) and where I will end up if the new configuration doesn't come to pass.
Feb 12, 2016, 2:23 pm
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Goldorak
How was your seat change handled? or were you in first so it didn't make a lot of difference? As you may recall, I am concerned about my J seat in April from IAH that shows as BEST but is currently being flown as NEV (something) and where I will end up if the new configuration doesn't come to pass.
How was your seat change handled? or were you in first so it didn't make a lot of difference? As you may recall, I am concerned about my J seat in April from IAH that shows as BEST but is currently being flown as NEV (something) and where I will end up if the new configuration doesn't come to pass.
). Since I booked (about 3 weeks before), I knew it was 2-3-2 config for my 77W with 2 rows of P. As per the wiki there was only one aircraft remaining in this config with the NEV3 version (F-GSQU). I was therefore expecting to fly this plane, but on my flight day, I saw that the incoming aircraft from CDG was F-GZND, supposedly BEST according to the wiki. But the seat map at OLCI was still showing 2-3-2 and it was indeed the case.
Feb 15, 2016, 1:21 pm
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I had no seat change. I was in J (not F unfortunately ). Since I booked (about 3 weeks before), I knew it was 2-3-2 config for my 77W with 2 rows of P. As per the wiki there was only one aircraft remaining in this config with the NEV3 version (F-GSQU). I was therefore expecting to fly this plane, but on my flight day, I saw that the incoming aircraft from CDG was F-GZND, supposedly BEST according to the wiki. But the seat map at OLCI was still showing 2-3-2 and it was indeed the case.
). Since I booked (about 3 weeks before), I knew it was 2-3-2 config for my 77W with 2 rows of P. As per the wiki there was only one aircraft remaining in this config with the NEV3 version (F-GSQU). I was therefore expecting to fly this plane, but on my flight day, I saw that the incoming aircraft from CDG was F-GZND, supposedly BEST according to the wiki. But the seat map at OLCI was still showing 2-3-2 and it was indeed the case.