New food in Plus (737): The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Dec 12, 2017, 12:13 pm
#46
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
Had the chickpea/kale chicken bowl. It sucked. Kale was bitter, and I hate chickpeas. The alternative was the cheese box but that's not really a meal.
Great service but the food is awful.
And the white wine was warm.
Also the flimsy faux cotton tablecloth is a waste of time.
The hot towels are great, though.
Great service but the food is awful.
And the white wine was warm.
Also the flimsy faux cotton tablecloth is a waste of time.
The hot towels are great, though.
Dec 12, 2017, 2:15 pm
#47
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: YYG
Programs: airlines and hotels and rental cars - oh my!
Posts: 2,999
I'm trying to remain as positive as I can, but honestly, the new menu just doesn't speak to me. I just make a point of eating before coming to the airport now. The onboard selection, at least in Plus, is pretty hard to stomach.
Dec 12, 2017, 6:44 pm
#48
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
I shall probably do the same for my upcoming flights. It's disappointing. Given WS charges as much as AC's Premium Economy for PLUS, it should provide a decent meal.
Dec 16, 2017, 11:50 pm
#49
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ/MGA
Programs: AA 1MM Lifetime Gold, AA Platinum, WS Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 7,607
Had the chickpea/kale chicken bowl. It sucked. Kale was bitter, and I hate chickpeas. The alternative was the cheese box but that's not really a meal.
Great service but the food is awful.
And the white wine was warm.
Also the flimsy faux cotton tablecloth is a waste of time.
The hot towels are great, though.
Great service but the food is awful.
And the white wine was warm.
Also the flimsy faux cotton tablecloth is a waste of time.
The hot towels are great, though.
Just ask in Plus. The FAs seem to be well aware how awful the choices are.
Still eating in the terminal or even buying a sandwich in the terminal makes sense.
Still 100% on not acknowledging Gold nor paid Plus by the flight attendant for 2017.
Dec 19, 2017, 2:50 am
#50
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 2
Just experienced the new plus menu and service down to Vegas last night. Great improvement in service, actually got acknowledged and personally welcomed for the first time. Actually using hot cloths vs the paper towels they used to use was a long overdue change as well as using glassware. As for the menu, total failure. They had the wrong menu on my flight, menu said it was the jasmine rice, instead it was the chickpea dish. Horrible. FA let us pick from the economy menu and it was a lot better than the plus menu. In plus had a choice of the cheese plate (that was on the economy menu) a chicken rice dish or a sandwich, both of which were more appetizing and filling then what plus had for offerings. Overall long overdue improvement in the overall on board menu, at least for economy but a step back for plus. As a regular flier who uses both AC and WestJet, still a long ways to go to match Premium Rouge.
WJ - cold meals, only a blocked middle seat.
AC Rouge - wider seats and a hot meal.
WJ - cold meals, only a blocked middle seat.
AC Rouge - wider seats and a hot meal.
Dec 19, 2017, 10:36 am
#51
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
I LOVE chopped leaf. I used to eat it a few times a week when working DT. Lost a few lbs lol
I think it's a great change, would prefer to eat that that most the food offered US/Canada domestic J 10000%
I think it's a great change, would prefer to eat that that most the food offered US/Canada domestic J 10000%
Dec 19, 2017, 8:28 pm
#52
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ/MGA
Programs: AA 1MM Lifetime Gold, AA Platinum, WS Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 7,607
They can't even get the Chopped Leaf stuff that are on the menu with a choice of only one thing on the plane at all so don't fall too much in love with it.
So johndk got the chickpea glop that was missing on my flight on Tuesday last when it was the only thing on the menu but instead they had something with mangoes.
It's quite a feat to have one thing on a menu and then not actually have the one thing.
Good news in the morning you won't have to fight for the Chia pudding bowl because everyone in Plus says they don't want it, so more for you.
I am going to check on the price for refundable Rouge Premium to San Jose CR next trip because of the so-so service on WS on this route, as long as it's 767 and not 319 service. I assume that you get the AC lounge (not provided by WS in YYZ without Gold coupons and non-existent in SJO) and AC pays the SJO departure tax while WS struggles to figure out how to do this (with the only other airline incapable being Cubana). And bigger Rouge seats, to boot.
So johndk got the chickpea glop that was missing on my flight on Tuesday last when it was the only thing on the menu but instead they had something with mangoes.
It's quite a feat to have one thing on a menu and then not actually have the one thing.
Good news in the morning you won't have to fight for the Chia pudding bowl because everyone in Plus says they don't want it, so more for you.
I am going to check on the price for refundable Rouge Premium to San Jose CR next trip because of the so-so service on WS on this route, as long as it's 767 and not 319 service. I assume that you get the AC lounge (not provided by WS in YYZ without Gold coupons and non-existent in SJO) and AC pays the SJO departure tax while WS struggles to figure out how to do this (with the only other airline incapable being Cubana). And bigger Rouge seats, to boot.
Dec 20, 2017, 9:23 am
#53
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
If one pre-purchase a meal voucher at $7.95 + tax, one gets a meal item plus a snack item and the hot entree is an additional $5.
Besides the wider seats in AC PE/ACr PR, one also gets dedicated check-in kiosk, priority baggage handling, a dedicated cabin with dedicated toilet(s).
I really wonder what WS senior management is thinking ........
Dec 20, 2017, 9:27 am
#54
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
They can't even get the Chopped Leaf stuff that are on the menu with a choice of only one thing on the plane at all so don't fall too much in love with it.
So johndk got the chickpea glop that was missing on my flight on Tuesday last when it was the only thing on the menu but instead they had something with mangoes.
It's quite a feat to have one thing on a menu and then not actually have the one thing.
Good news in the morning you won't have to fight for the Chia pudding bowl because everyone in Plus says they don't want it, so more for you.
I am going to check on the price for refundable Rouge Premium to San Jose CR next trip because of the so-so service on WS on this route, as long as it's 767 and not 319 service. I assume that you get the AC lounge (not provided by WS in YYZ without Gold coupons and non-existent in SJO) and AC pays the SJO departure tax while WS struggles to figure out how to do this (with the only other airline incapable being Cubana). And bigger Rouge seats, to boot.
So johndk got the chickpea glop that was missing on my flight on Tuesday last when it was the only thing on the menu but instead they had something with mangoes.
It's quite a feat to have one thing on a menu and then not actually have the one thing.
Good news in the morning you won't have to fight for the Chia pudding bowl because everyone in Plus says they don't want it, so more for you.
I am going to check on the price for refundable Rouge Premium to San Jose CR next trip because of the so-so service on WS on this route, as long as it's 767 and not 319 service. I assume that you get the AC lounge (not provided by WS in YYZ without Gold coupons and non-existent in SJO) and AC pays the SJO departure tax while WS struggles to figure out how to do this (with the only other airline incapable being Cubana). And bigger Rouge seats, to boot.
I always treat AC's Premium Economy to be equivalent to WS Plus. However, at more or less the same price, AC PE is offering much more than WS Plus.
AC PE (North American routes) may access the MLL for $25/person. Many credit cards offer complimentary lounge access and AC MLL has nother to rave about anyway.
Last edited by Clipper801; Dec 20, 2017 at 12:28 pm
Dec 20, 2017, 11:42 am
#55
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: The World
Programs: WS Platinum, Marriott Titanium, DL Gold, UA Silver
Posts: 1,478
Dec 20, 2017, 11:45 am
#56
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: PHX
Programs: AAexp, AC75k, HertzPC, NationalEE, Accor/MariottP, Hilton/HyattG
Posts: 3,614
Hmmm interesting to note. I've found AE PE fares not even remotely close to being comparable to WS Plus prices for LHR so it's an easy choice for me if I want to save and fly "PE"
For ex, YYC-LHR WS PE $1200(to buy outright), AC PE $2600, AC/BA J $4K+ . No brainier. There's not much really anything different for me between AC PE and WS Plus to LHR having flown both except the WS planes are OLD and the flight crew are much more more friendlier.
I've flown ACr for their INTL sun destinations/USA sun on both the plus style PR seats on 767 and the new 2/2 J seating that ACr has on their Airbus. I think it was $199 O/W to upgrade to PE YYZ-Mexico, which was amazing value for a couple friends who had no status and received all the benefits of AC PE. It was also always available at time of check in, but we just called in and upgraded in advance.
It's nothing to rave about for sure but for $199 O/W, I'd also fly AC Rogue PR to Sun over WS if it were the same price if you had no status as you do receive more benefits. Plus I do really like the ACPr crew, service and plane. The WS767's are just so noticeably old even with the "new" plus seats.
choice between ACr and WS in economy? WS all day. avoid ACr like the plague in Y
For ex, YYC-LHR WS PE $1200(to buy outright), AC PE $2600, AC/BA J $4K+ . No brainier. There's not much really anything different for me between AC PE and WS Plus to LHR having flown both except the WS planes are OLD and the flight crew are much more more friendlier.
I've flown ACr for their INTL sun destinations/USA sun on both the plus style PR seats on 767 and the new 2/2 J seating that ACr has on their Airbus. I think it was $199 O/W to upgrade to PE YYZ-Mexico, which was amazing value for a couple friends who had no status and received all the benefits of AC PE. It was also always available at time of check in, but we just called in and upgraded in advance.
It's nothing to rave about for sure but for $199 O/W, I'd also fly AC Rogue PR to Sun over WS if it were the same price if you had no status as you do receive more benefits. Plus I do really like the ACPr crew, service and plane. The WS767's are just so noticeably old even with the "new" plus seats.
choice between ACr and WS in economy? WS all day. avoid ACr like the plague in Y
Dec 20, 2017, 12:22 pm
#57
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
ACr Premium Rouge is pretty much marketed as Premium Economy on International routes.
Access to the MLL is available at $25/person.
Dec 20, 2017, 9:37 pm
#58
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: YYZ/MGA
Programs: AA 1MM Lifetime Gold, AA Platinum, WS Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 7,607
One gets MLL access with ACr PR for North American and Sun destination flights. Optional extra at $25/person for International flights.
I always treat AC's Premium Economy to be equivalent to WS Plus. However, at more or less the same price, AC PE is offering much more than WS Plus.
AC PE (North American routes) may access the MLL for $25/person. Many credit cards offer complimentary lounge access and AC MLL has nother to rave about anyway.
I always treat AC's Premium Economy to be equivalent to WS Plus. However, at more or less the same price, AC PE is offering much more than WS Plus.
AC PE (North American routes) may access the MLL for $25/person. Many credit cards offer complimentary lounge access and AC MLL has nother to rave about anyway.
Other than the poles occasionally, there's sun for at least some time everywhere on Earth.
I was in San Jose Costa Rica last week and just about froze my arse off. Not much sun, temps to 4 degrees in the hills.
Even Air Canada's web site is less than helpful on figuring out where the sun is.
If SJO is part of "sun destinations" do they provide access to Star Alliance lounges in SJO, e.g. Avianca or Copa lounges?
Last edited by ricktoronto; Dec 20, 2017 at 9:46 pm
Dec 21, 2017, 2:11 am
#59
Join Date: Jan 2007
Programs: No single airline or hotel chain is of much use to me anymore.
Posts: 3,279
A flight attendant told me Chopped Leaf in Plus will go away as ovens are installed in the 737s but she wouldn’t be surprised to see them come up with something else sooner since it was ridiculous that people in Plus were eating cheese and crackers for breakfast. She had fairly lengthy chats with several passengers who had diatribes to offer about the new menu.
Another flight attendant described the new menu in general as an “over-correction” and said the revenue will speak for itself.
Personally I decided I wasn’t hungry enough to even poke at the quinoa bowl
Another flight attendant described the new menu in general as an “over-correction” and said the revenue will speak for itself.
Personally I decided I wasn’t hungry enough to even poke at the quinoa bowl
Dec 21, 2017, 3:07 am
#60
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,653
New Plus Menu begins today 21DEC! It's an interim measure, but will stabilize the Plus experience until proper new menu begins in very early 2018. The "Booster Bowls" and "Chia Bowls" are gone.