Alaska ditching Virgin's great first class
Jul 31, 2017, 12:06 am
#107
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No I didn't. There were no instructions on either fight I was in F for how to operate the seat or even bring the screen up. Short flights, LAS-SFO length, so not really a big deal on that. But even knowing how to operate the seat would not make it any softer. I found it very hard and uncomfortable.
From my first F flight on VX, I do not recall having any issues with the intuitive features available.
The seats are far superior to any F product flying, except for the lie-flat transcon seats on a few airlines which are recently proliferating.
The space, as well as the adjustable footrest, make these seats unique. Service and attitude is great as well. I think we all understand, VX F is going away. But that does not mean that it is not a better product, and that we will not all miss it when it is phased out.
Jul 31, 2017, 9:00 pm
#108
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Instructions?
From my first F flight on VX, I do not recall having any issues with the intuitive features available.
The seats are far superior to any F product flying, except for the lie-flat transcon seats on a few airlines which are recently proliferating.
The space, as well as the adjustable footrest, make these seats unique. Service and attitude is great as well. I think we all understand, VX F is going away. But that does not mean that it is not a better product, and that we will not all miss it when it is phased out.
From my first F flight on VX, I do not recall having any issues with the intuitive features available.
The seats are far superior to any F product flying, except for the lie-flat transcon seats on a few airlines which are recently proliferating.
The space, as well as the adjustable footrest, make these seats unique. Service and attitude is great as well. I think we all understand, VX F is going away. But that does not mean that it is not a better product, and that we will not all miss it when it is phased out.
Aug 1, 2017, 6:24 pm
#109
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The seats are far superior to any F product flying, except for the lie-flat transcon seats on a few airlines which are recently proliferating.
I think we all understand, VX F is going away. But that does not mean that it is not a better product, and that we will not all miss it when it is phased out.
I think we all understand, VX F is going away. But that does not mean that it is not a better product, and that we will not all miss it when it is phased out.
Aug 1, 2017, 6:55 pm
#110
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Seems like long term, VX's F is too great for anything short and medium range. And for actual transcon markets, mint would've killed VX in any market that had enough premium demand. From that sense, VX really got sold off at the right time.
Aug 2, 2017, 12:22 pm
#111
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Aug 2, 2017, 8:53 pm
#113
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Sep 7, 2017, 9:47 am
#114
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When is VX F ending - the original poster links to the AS page about the merger and that 2019 is final year for VX. Has it changed?
I booked VX F in November and hope it's still VX F but only one way, Ord-SFO. For the opposite, VX F was too much so I had to overpay with very inferior AA F.
I booked VX F in November and hope it's still VX F but only one way, Ord-SFO. For the opposite, VX F was too much so I had to overpay with very inferior AA F.
Sep 7, 2017, 12:14 pm
#115
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From what I have seen, VX aircraft re-configs begin in early 2018, presumably after the combined operating certificate is received, targeted in January.
I presume they will get the new Alaska F seats that were announced awhile back but I don't think have been installed anywhere yet. They are pretty standard, just a little better/newer.
http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.c...lass-retrofit/
Get used to the minimal F food offerings too which may come sooner.
I presume they will get the new Alaska F seats that were announced awhile back but I don't think have been installed anywhere yet. They are pretty standard, just a little better/newer.
http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.c...lass-retrofit/
Get used to the minimal F food offerings too which may come sooner.
Last edited by dmodemd; Sep 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm
Sep 7, 2017, 1:08 pm
#116
Join Date: Feb 2015
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wondering if we will still be able to request snack from Y? For example, the pack of chocolate chip cookies?
Are they still loading the snack basket for F?
Not sure what our flight will be like in a few weeks. From reports, F is drastically pared down from what it was 2 months ago.
Are they still loading the snack basket for F?
Not sure what our flight will be like in a few weeks. From reports, F is drastically pared down from what it was 2 months ago.
Sep 7, 2017, 6:48 pm
#117
Join Date: Mar 2012
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wondering if we will still be able to request snack from Y? For example, the pack of chocolate chip cookies?
Are they still loading the snack basket for F?
Not sure what our flight will be like in a few weeks. From reports, F is drastically pared down from what it was 2 months ago.
Are they still loading the snack basket for F?
Not sure what our flight will be like in a few weeks. From reports, F is drastically pared down from what it was 2 months ago.
First Class service is still the same, and will be for the next many months at least. You won't notice any difference than in the past, with the exception of head phones, as we are in between the old ones and new ones.
Sep 8, 2017, 9:46 pm
#118
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Hope you are on one of our next 4 flights.
Headphones, not a big deal, for me. Blankets and pillow , great for cold feet and lower back . Dean and Deluca Fruit Salad candies in snack basket, my new obsession . I know, hit or miss, but love to find them when they are loaded.
Service has always been spot on and now I am excited to be flying again on VX.
Oct 20, 2017, 10:38 am
#119
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Searched for info on this and this was the best thread I could find. If there is one more relevant, feel free to point me in the right direction
As a longtime AS F flyer who got a taste of the great VX F product. As a result, I have been flying a lot of VX F lately and loving it. I am thinking of booking VX paid F for a flight next March but I am scared that the retrofit to AS F will happen before then and I will be kicking myself for paying such a premium when I can get AS F for the price of coach + a GGU.
Is there a schedule of when this change to AS-style F seats will happen? Or a hard and fast date as the start date? Flight in question will be the second or third week of March, 2018 SFO-HNL.
As a longtime AS F flyer who got a taste of the great VX F product. As a result, I have been flying a lot of VX F lately and loving it. I am thinking of booking VX paid F for a flight next March but I am scared that the retrofit to AS F will happen before then and I will be kicking myself for paying such a premium when I can get AS F for the price of coach + a GGU.
Is there a schedule of when this change to AS-style F seats will happen? Or a hard and fast date as the start date? Flight in question will be the second or third week of March, 2018 SFO-HNL.
Oct 20, 2017, 11:03 am
#120
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fly HA flat beds. it will be cheaper.
UA also runs flat beds on that route, and cheap with originations elsewhere like PDX. UA Hawaiii fares often permit free stopover and no HIP check. On the return, just hidden city.
No reason to believe AS 32X fleet will have even started retrofit in 5 months.
UA also runs flat beds on that route, and cheap with originations elsewhere like PDX. UA Hawaiii fares often permit free stopover and no HIP check. On the return, just hidden city.
No reason to believe AS 32X fleet will have even started retrofit in 5 months.