Forbes ranks 'America's Worst Airlines' - US is the worst major
#16
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,377
They have apparently updated the list once again, which seems to be a simple average of the the three DOT numbers. I don't think math was/is one of their strong points, but anyway the "correct" list:
1. Atlantic Southeast
2. Comair
3. American Eagle
4. Mesa
5. Expressjet
6. US
1. Atlantic Southeast
2. Comair
3. American Eagle
4. Mesa
5. Expressjet
6. US
#18
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NYC
Programs: AA Platinum; US Gold; DL Silver
Posts: 941
I've flown all four majors you mention so far this year -- DL and US rather heavily.
It's not even close. In terms of on-time departures, lost luggage, missed connections, in-flight service, aircraft cleanliness, and customer service, US is a DISTANT last place (including when booking on "express" carriers).
CO is the best, followed closely by DL (who I prefer for their more extensive route network), AA, and UAL (which, despite its aging planes and surly staff, is still loads better than US).
US isn't even the "bus in the sky." Greyhound and Peter Pan give you what you pay for -- nothing more -- but often on US this year, regardless of my class of service, I didn't even get that.
Envoy with broken entertainment systems and lousy food. Domestic "first" without enough meals and beverages. Luggage lost consistently regardless of which class I book (I think US has a deal with the baggage manufacturers to keep their sales up!)
4% on-time departure days in Philadelphia. A transatlantic operation that is a COMPLETE and TOTAL joke -- so bad that our company just issued orders to all fliers that US Airways is banned from European flights for business due to people missing key business due to missed connections and delayed/cancelled flights. I've NEVER seen an order like that before.
The spin is ridiculous, guys. US wasn't so bad a couple of years ago. Now, it's truly scraping the bottom. Hell, the management has hit rock bottom and started to dig.
#19
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Winnetka, CA
Programs: UA Premier, SPG Gold, HP/US/whatever nothing :-)
Posts: 718
I must have seriously lucked out. I did a quick MR LAX-PHL on Saturday and both flights were on time and in fact I arrived at both airports early (even with some mid-continent weather). The service was great and the FA's were all very pleasant and incredibly friendly. Both a/c were clean and seemed fully stocked (seatbacks, lavs). I honestly had nothing to complain about.
Then again I didn't check any luggage so I can't use that as a comparo.
Then again I didn't check any luggage so I can't use that as a comparo.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
And DL, AA, and UA are right behind US.
You guys are just trying to hate on US. Yes it is the Bus in the Sky. But when they are right there with the other big 3 and better than their RJ providers it looks to me they are all about even in this article/list.
Delta has 1 and 2 and 5 and 9.
AA has 3 and 7.
UA has 4 and 8.
US had 4 and 6.
CO has 5.
Looks to me that Delta is by far the worse airline to fly from this. AA and US are tied as 2nd worse. UA is 3rd worse. and CO is 4th worse.
Just what I see from this...
You guys are just trying to hate on US. Yes it is the Bus in the Sky. But when they are right there with the other big 3 and better than their RJ providers it looks to me they are all about even in this article/list.
Delta has 1 and 2 and 5 and 9.
AA has 3 and 7.
UA has 4 and 8.
US had 4 and 6.
CO has 5.
Looks to me that Delta is by far the worse airline to fly from this. AA and US are tied as 2nd worse. UA is 3rd worse. and CO is 4th worse.
Just what I see from this...
6. US AirwaysOn-time performance: 68.3% (third worst)
Baggage mishandling: 8.6 per 1,000 passengers (seventh)
Cancellations: 1.9% (ninth)
7. American AirlinesOn-time performance: 69.9% (fifth worst)
Baggage mishandling: 5.8 per 1,000 passengers (11th)
Cancellations: 2.0% (eighth
8. United AirlinesOn-time performance: 72.4% (sixth worst)
Baggage mishandling: 5.4 per 1,000 passengers (12th)
Cancellations: 2.1% (seventh)
9. Delta Air LinesOn-time performance: 75% (fifth worst)
Baggage mishandling: 6.6 per 1,000 passengers (eighth)
Cancellations: 1.5% (13th)
10. Alaska AirlinesOn-time performance: 72.8% (eighth worst)
Baggage mishandling: 6.6 per 1,000 passengers (ninth)
Cancellations: 1.2% (15th)
Basically there is not a difference worth talking about between number 6, US and number 10, AS, and all in between.
#21
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Tucson, AZ
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott LT Titanium, AA LT Gold, Radisson Gold, Hertz PC, HP Masters emeritus (sigh)
Posts: 445
I can't believe Mesa isn't No. 1, either. Many, many times I have waited longer for the Mesa PHX-TUS connection than it would have taken to drive. Good thing wireless access is free in PHX!
I would like to see stats like this be arranged for the majors WITH their commuter flights -- i.e., include US and US's Mesa flights together, so it will more accurately inform the ticket-buying public, who may not realize who is actually operating the flight they are choosing.
I would like to see stats like this be arranged for the majors WITH their commuter flights -- i.e., include US and US's Mesa flights together, so it will more accurately inform the ticket-buying public, who may not realize who is actually operating the flight they are choosing.
#22
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: FLL
Programs: Delta GM, (fmr US CP/PP/GP!), DL SkyClub, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Avis Chairman's Club
Posts: 5,162
I can't believe Mesa isn't No. 1, either. Many, many times I have waited longer for the Mesa PHX-TUS connection than it would have taken to drive. Good thing wireless access is free in PHX!
I would like to see stats like this be arranged for the majors WITH their commuter flights -- i.e., include US and US's Mesa flights together, so it will more accurately inform the ticket-buying public, who may not realize who is actually operating the flight they are choosing.
I would like to see stats like this be arranged for the majors WITH their commuter flights -- i.e., include US and US's Mesa flights together, so it will more accurately inform the ticket-buying public, who may not realize who is actually operating the flight they are choosing.