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Old Apr 26, 2014, 10:12 pm
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Minimum Connection time at PHX

Hello,

In Mid-may, i am planning to travel from SEA-MCO. As one of the options, i see the below:

US 648 SEA - PHX, Dep: 8:23p Arr: 11:10p

US 1824 PHX - MCO, Dep: 11:35p Arr: 6:33a

Connection time: 25 min

I was wondering if i could make this connection at PHX ( i read somewhere that min layover time suggested for domestic is around 45 min).

On a totally different note, if we cannot make this connection just thinking why it is show up in the results.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 10:19 pm
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With certain exceptions, 25 minutes is the minimum connection in PHX for US to US domestic connections.
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Old Apr 26, 2014, 11:03 pm
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 10:18 am
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Here are the PHX domestic to domestic MCTs. I don't see anything specified for flight 648 to 1824, so it looks like 25 minutes would apply.

Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Minimum Connect Times:
Connecting at PHX
Incoming airline US
Outgoing airline US
Flight type Domestic to Domestic

STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE   1.00  1.00  1.00  1.00
OFFLINE  1.00  1.00  1.00  1.00
** OR * ARE ALL
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD  1.00 FLT    1 - 4799 - FLT 6000 - 7999 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT  900 - 1699 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 1700 - 2199 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2200 - 2499 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2500 - 2674 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2675 - 2974 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 2975 - 3199 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3200 - 3524 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 3525 - 3699 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 4400 - 4499 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 4500 - 4799 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT    1 -  399 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT  400 -  899 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT  900 - 1699 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 1700 - 2199 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 2200 - 2499 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 2500 - 2674 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 2675 - 2974 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 2975 - 3199 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 3200 - 3524 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 3525 - 3699 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 4400 - 4499 
US-US DD   .30 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 4500 - 4799 
US-US DD   .25 FLT 8000 - 8799 - FLT 8000 - 8799 
US-US DD   .25
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 11:11 am
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 11:14 am
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While it is probably a legal connection, book at your own risk. Distances between gates can be quite long. Even being CP I never book that tight of a connection in PHX. And it's worse if your connection is onward to USExpress/Skywest. They really love to close the door at 10 minutes before and depart early. Once, my arriving flight from CLT was late due to a mechanical, I got to the gate 8 minutes before departure and they wouldn't let me on. The kicker was the plane then left 4 minutes early. And don't assume there will be any seats available on the next flight out, either.
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by travel4b
While it is probably a legal connection, book at your own risk. Distances between gates can be quite long. Even being CP I never book that tight of a connection in PHX. And it's worse if your connection is onward to USExpress/Skywest. They really love to close the door at 10 minutes before and depart early. Once, my arriving flight from CLT was late due to a mechanical, I got to the gate 8 minutes before departure and they wouldn't let me on. The kicker was the plane then left 4 minutes early. And don't assume there will be any seats available on the next flight out, either.
Especially in OP's case, where the next flight out is the next morning...

(though I suppose they could put OP on the super late PHX-CLT connecting to a morning CLT-MCO in the case of a misconnect)
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 2:47 pm
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As long as 648 is on time you will be golden.
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 3:55 pm
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Bear in mind that US requires that you be at the departure gate no later than T-15. If the flight is in danger of an oversell, you will be off-loaded at that time. The 25 minutes is fine. If the flight is at risk of oversell, the 10 minutes is a tough one (given that the clock starts when the brakes lock on the inbound).
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Old Apr 27, 2014, 8:28 pm
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I absolutely would never book a 25 minute connection in PHX. There are many variables at play - flight being late, where you are seated on the plane, how far you have to travel between gates - that an work against you.

I had a 60 minute connection a while back, my plane arrived 20 minutes late, it took several minutes to get the jet bridge to the plane, and the gates could not have been any further apart - even being in F, by the time I made it to my connecting gate, they had already closed the door. Normally 60 minutes is fine, but with a few negative variables and you see what happens. 25 minutes - no way.
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Old Apr 30, 2014, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by hginPHL
I absolutely would never book a 25 minute connection in PHX. There are many variables at play - flight being late, where you are seated on the plane, how far you have to travel between gates - that an work against you.

I had a 60 minute connection a while back, my plane arrived 20 minutes late, it took several minutes to get the jet bridge to the plane, and the gates could not have been any further apart - even being in F, by the time I made it to my connecting gate, they had already closed the door. Normally 60 minutes is fine, but with a few negative variables and you see what happens. 25 minutes - no way.
Truly. Anyone who makes a 25 minute connection in PHX is just having a lucky day.
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Old May 1, 2014, 3:55 pm
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I've made plenty of 25 minute connections in PHX, even during morning rush hour, yeah sometimes I was stressing, but always made sure that their would likely be a free seat on the next flight to where I was going.
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Old May 1, 2014, 4:26 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions guys, i wanted something that reaches MCO early morning. I decided against it and will now be flying through SFO (Virgin america).
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