Consolidated "is Economy Plus worth it?" Thread [Merged]
#17
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: San Francisco
Programs: United/Star Alliance - 1K
Posts: 2,176
Oddly, I just got back from 12 hours in Munich (well, yesterday). First non-premier cabin flight in the past 4, i.e., all Y. LAX-MUC was on LH too so you know it's tight. On the UA LHR-SFO return in 17C on a 777, I kept looking at the pitch and thinking back to LH. Glad the seatback isn't in my face (and I'm 5'8"). I wouldn't pay up for a transcon (even $50 is a nice bottle of scotch), but I'd sure earn the status to get it every time.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Florida
Programs: UA 1P, SPG
Posts: 521
I think the OP was talking about a free upgrade to E+. If E- is booked solid , they will have to move some passengers up to E+. Just dont select a seat assignment, and they'll give you one at the gate. If E- is full, you'll get a seat in E+. However, waiting till the gate to get a seat assignment puts you at risk for being separated and being placed in two separate E- middle seats.
FWIW, I wouldnt spend the $200 on E+ upgrades. I have done ORD - HKG - SIN in E- middle and lived. If you have the cash and are a tall person, you'll benefit from it though.
FWIW, I wouldnt spend the $200 on E+ upgrades. I have done ORD - HKG - SIN in E- middle and lived. If you have the cash and are a tall person, you'll benefit from it though.
#19
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Victoria, BC
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I then went on long trips transatlantic in E-. Those were painful, but fine. But there is no way I'd pay money for E+. That's UA's way of squeezing more cash out of you. It really should be a reward for fequent flyers, not a way to extract more money from people.
Take the $100 and go for a nice meal instead.
Take the $100 and go for a nice meal instead.
E+ means that I can sit without my knees touching the seat in front of me.
E+ is the difference between claustrophobia and humane seating.
All of this would be worth more to me on a transcon or TATL flight than a fancy meal afterwards.
United is providing an extra service (more legroom and generally lighter loads than in E-) at a moderate price: $349 a year, including a companion. I would happily pay that as a non-elite flyer and consider free access to E+ as one of the most important perks of my elite status.
I do not think it is appropriate to accuse United of "extracting more money from people" for offering a valuable service at a moderate price.
#20
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Go for it!!!
#21
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 24
Thanks everyone,
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
#22
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 4,449
E+ means that I can use my laptop, which I really need to get some work done or for entertainment purposes to stay sane on 8+ hour flights.
E+ means that I can sit without my knees touching the seat in front of me.
E+ is the difference between claustrophobia and humane seating.
All of this would be worth more to me on a transcon or TATL flight than a fancy meal afterwards.
United is providing an extra service (more legroom and generally lighter loads than in E-) at a moderate price: $349 a year, including a companion. I would happily pay that as a non-elite flyer and consider free access to E+ as one of the most important perks of my elite status.
I do not think it is appropriate to accuse United of "extracting more money from people" for offering a valuable service at a moderate price.
E+ means that I can sit without my knees touching the seat in front of me.
E+ is the difference between claustrophobia and humane seating.
All of this would be worth more to me on a transcon or TATL flight than a fancy meal afterwards.
United is providing an extra service (more legroom and generally lighter loads than in E-) at a moderate price: $349 a year, including a companion. I would happily pay that as a non-elite flyer and consider free access to E+ as one of the most important perks of my elite status.
I do not think it is appropriate to accuse United of "extracting more money from people" for offering a valuable service at a moderate price.
#24
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CMH
Programs: united
Posts: 129
Your points are valid, and yes these are well-known perks to E+. But I would *personally* never shell out $100 for something that is free on Jet Blue (sans personal TV!). Keep in mind, the farther you fly, the more expensive E+ becomes for non-elites (I was non elite until July this year). They wanted to charge me a few hundred dollars from SFO-FRA to fly in E+. E+ is better, but it is not *that* much better. But if you would pay for it, I respect your viewpoint. However, I would not shell out cash to fly in a E+ seat; I would simply get on Jet Blue and get the same sized seat with a TV.
stick passengers in seats, which are barely fit for children and then charge
significant amount of money to get an extra couple of inches of pitch.
On the other hand, the main reason I keep flying United is getting E+ for free. How pathetic..
#25
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SFO, SEA, ROA, RDU
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Posts: 1,018
As for the "free" upgrade on the IAD-SEA leg, I had to laugh. I'm 1K and I sometimes sweat that upgrade. With no status, fuhgeddaboutit. (And, as others have pointed out, there are no free upgrades on UA -- they all require an instrument of one kind or another. Check out the FAQ's on this forum for more information.)
In my opinion, E+ access is worth it for long flights (3+ hrs). Anything less than that I'd not pay for it if I was non-status. E+ access (and the fact few *good* airlines fly to ROA) is the main reason I've stuck with UA instead of switching to CO or AA. Who am I kidding, I'd never switch to AA.
#26
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: United 1kMM; AA EX Plat, Hilton Diamond and SPG Plat
Posts: 2,014
Thanks everyone,
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
Also, if you are able to get a bump you have options, $$$ or a free RT in continental US. You could probably score E+ seats and the RT if they need you.
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#27
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Thanks everyone,
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
Its 50 bucks a person so 100 bucks total. We're flying Delta back so this is only a one way deal. I'm 5'10" and girlfriend is 5'9" so it may be worth it. From orbitz the flight looks packed and first class/economy plus still have a bunch of open seats. What I'm thinking about doing is volunteering to get bumped off the flight it its overbooked catch the next flight at 1230 and instead of getting milage getting a bumped up o economy plus or something. Any body have some spare miles they want to loan me?
haha
thanks
Dave
A small investment for the long hours in the back.
On domestic flights I guess I would not pay for it though, especially if there is a stop in between.
Enjoy the ride
#28
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 24
We are flying out of IAD on the 2nd of January on flight 261. Departs at 8:39 AM and gets into SEA at 11:31AM. Looking on seat counter A,B,E and F all have 9.
Thanks everybody for the opinions. Going to talk to the girlfriend see what she wants to do.
Thanks
Dave
Thanks everybody for the opinions. Going to talk to the girlfriend see what she wants to do.
Thanks
Dave
#29
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: NYC
Programs: AA LT G (1MM);DL G, UA GM
Posts: 2,028
Sure you can -- just go onto .bomb to check your itinerary, make like you're going to purchase the travel extra of E+, proceed to the screen where you choose your E+ seat, and then cancel the transaction after you've looked at the seat map.
I found E+ worthwhile on my recent TATL trip, and I'm only 5'2". On both legs E+ was empty enough that I had an entire middle row to myself, and I was near the front of Y, well positioned to sprint for my very tight connection (in E-).
I found E+ worthwhile on my recent TATL trip, and I'm only 5'2". On both legs E+ was empty enough that I had an entire middle row to myself, and I was near the front of Y, well positioned to sprint for my very tight connection (in E-).
#30
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: ORD
Programs: UA Gold, AA MM/Gold, Hilton Gold, Sheraton Gold
Posts: 369
To each his own. For my own I'll take the extra space, especially transpac or transat or transcon.