Push to 2P
Jul 23, 2005 | 1:02 pm
#16
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: san francisco.
Programs: Marriott Plt, OW Blue!
Posts: 2,096
Originally Posted by dcgators
Got both 5,000 EQMs for upgrading from M+ Gold Class to Platinum Signature VISA. Applied online for a new M+ Platinum VISA and got those EQMs too. So did my SO.
BTW, I just made the 500 post club - Wooo-hooo! (there is a 500 post club,right?
)
Last edited by tattikat2; Jul 23, 2005 at 1:03 pm Reason: Spelling.. always speeling.
Jul 23, 2005 | 1:08 pm
#17
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: We got lucky9876coins
Programs: Life IS good !!!
Posts: 3,180
Originally Posted by tattikat2
BTW, I just made the 500 post club - Wooo-hooo! (there is a 500 post club,right? )
)
I am a few dozen posts away from the half-K mark myself...
Sorry for going OT.
Jul 26, 2005 | 10:52 pm
#18
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: United 1K MM
Posts: 744
Hello Everyone,
Sorry for the bump.
FYI, you guys are awesome ^ ^ ^ I don't have anything worth giving (at the moment), except Gmail invites. If you don't already have it, PM me.
I have some more questions, if you all don't mind. I am planning a trip, below, and I have $300-400 to get there and back. I need to be there fairly early in the morning on the way out, so not sure if that part can become a MR/SR, but the way back... Oh, the possiblilities! Actually, herein lies the problem. I can't figure out what to do, and I also can't find the routing rules on Orbitz. 
Do you guys have any suggestions?
SBA -> SFO / SJC Aug 12 (Must arrive by 11:00am)
SFO / SJC -> SBA Aug 15 (Must leave after 5:00pm or 10:00pm)
Happy (UA) Flying!
Sorry for the bump.
FYI, you guys are awesome ^ ^ ^ I don't have anything worth giving (at the moment), except Gmail invites. If you don't already have it, PM me.
I have some more questions, if you all don't mind.
I am planning a trip, below, and I have $300-400 to get there and back. I need to be there fairly early in the morning on the way out, so not sure if that part can become a MR/SR, but the way back... Oh, the possiblilities! Actually, herein lies the problem. I can't figure out what to do, and I also can't find the routing rules on Orbitz. Do you guys have any suggestions?SBA -> SFO / SJC Aug 12 (Must arrive by 11:00am)
SFO / SJC -> SBA Aug 15 (Must leave after 5:00pm or 10:00pm)
Happy (UA) Flying!
Jul 27, 2005 | 5:02 am
#19
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Golden State
Programs: 2Peon, NW PLAT, HH Diamond & *W Fallen-from-Gold-Grace
Posts: 1,422
Used ITA: SBA:: ua ua, SFO:: ua ua ua
On United.com:
390.80 USD
1 United Airlines 6445
(Operated by United Express/Skywest) Aug 12 6:40 am SBA 7:41 am SFO Non-stop
2 United Airlines 1482
(Operated by United For Ted)
Meet Ted Aug 15 7:15 pm SFO 8:41 pm LAS Non-stop
3 United Airlines 1493
(Operated by United For Ted)
Meet Ted Aug 15 8:59 pm LAS 10:05 pm LAX Non-stop
United Airlines 6543
(Operated by United Express/Skywest) Everyday low fares Aug 15 10:35 pm LAX 11:06 pm SBA Non-stop
PS- Routing rules are found via Expedia.
PSS- Fare to SJC was a few dollars less, but only non-stops offered.
PSSS- If you ex-OXR, can go OXR-LAX-SFO-LAX-SLC/SAN-OXR, but you get into OXR Tuesday 9:15am. You'll spend 6hrs in SLC ($395), 8hrs in SAN ($403).
Just wanted to add... Quick search for transcon, Dream Map shows PHL for about $250. On Orbitz: SBA-LAX-PHX-CLT-PHL-CLT-DEN-SBA $268, 9/17-9/18. 5375 (.05/mi) That's better than I could get from my little airport.
On United.com:
390.80 USD
1 United Airlines 6445
(Operated by United Express/Skywest) Aug 12 6:40 am SBA 7:41 am SFO Non-stop
2 United Airlines 1482
(Operated by United For Ted)
Meet Ted Aug 15 7:15 pm SFO 8:41 pm LAS Non-stop
3 United Airlines 1493
(Operated by United For Ted)
Meet Ted Aug 15 8:59 pm LAS 10:05 pm LAX Non-stop
United Airlines 6543
(Operated by United Express/Skywest) Everyday low fares Aug 15 10:35 pm LAX 11:06 pm SBA Non-stop
PS- Routing rules are found via Expedia.
PSS- Fare to SJC was a few dollars less, but only non-stops offered.
PSSS- If you ex-OXR, can go OXR-LAX-SFO-LAX-SLC/SAN-OXR, but you get into OXR Tuesday 9:15am. You'll spend 6hrs in SLC ($395), 8hrs in SAN ($403).
Just wanted to add... Quick search for transcon, Dream Map shows PHL for about $250. On Orbitz: SBA-LAX-PHX-CLT-PHL-CLT-DEN-SBA $268, 9/17-9/18. 5375 (.05/mi) That's better than I could get from my little airport.
Last edited by FourWheels; Jul 27, 2005 at 5:55 am
Jul 27, 2005 | 7:39 am
#20
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SAN
Programs: UA 1MM/1K, HH Diamond
Posts: 7,298
Originally Posted by EdisonCarter
One question I have is why you want to make 2P. If you've only done 8 segments so far this year, it's not worth doubling or tripling your time and money spent just to make the flying you do have to do marginally nicer. If you've got an international trip planned or something like that, it might be worth it. Gaining "elite" status won't change your life, just your flying.
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it? Yes, I know, it's all relative, but I am interested to hear from 2Ps who have to make a moderate effort to maintain that status but have no realistic chance to ever make 1P or above... Are you happy? Do you notice the difference in terms of op-ups, treatment overall, etc.? Is permanent E+ "worth" the extra effort it takes to maintain 2P? Thanks.
(My feeling is that if being 2P gets me 1 op-up of any kind during the year along with E+, then it's worth it, but what do I know!?!)
Jul 27, 2005 | 7:41 am
#21
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD
Programs: UA 2P (former 1P)
Posts: 159
Originally Posted by as219
So hopefully this isn't OT but...
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it? Yes, I know, it's all relative, but I am interested to hear from 2Ps who have to make a moderate effort to maintain that status but have no realistic chance to ever make 1P or above... Are you happy? Do you notice the difference in terms of op-ups, treatment overall, etc.? Is permanent E+ "worth" the extra effort it takes to maintain 2P? Thanks.
(My feeling is that if being 2P gets me 1 op-up of any kind during the year along with E+, then it's worth it, but what do I know!?!)
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it? Yes, I know, it's all relative, but I am interested to hear from 2Ps who have to make a moderate effort to maintain that status but have no realistic chance to ever make 1P or above... Are you happy? Do you notice the difference in terms of op-ups, treatment overall, etc.? Is permanent E+ "worth" the extra effort it takes to maintain 2P? Thanks.
(My feeling is that if being 2P gets me 1 op-up of any kind during the year along with E+, then it's worth it, but what do I know!?!)
Jul 27, 2005 | 7:53 am
#22
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA; Philadelphia, PA
Programs: FA
Posts: 6,485
Originally Posted by as219
So hopefully this isn't OT but...
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it? Yes, I know, it's all relative, but I am interested to hear from 2Ps who have to make a moderate effort to maintain that status but have no realistic chance to ever make 1P or above... Are you happy? Do you notice the difference in terms of op-ups, treatment overall, etc.? Is permanent E+ "worth" the extra effort it takes to maintain 2P? Thanks.
(My feeling is that if being 2P gets me 1 op-up of any kind during the year along with E+, then it's worth it, but what do I know!?!)
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it? Yes, I know, it's all relative, but I am interested to hear from 2Ps who have to make a moderate effort to maintain that status but have no realistic chance to ever make 1P or above... Are you happy? Do you notice the difference in terms of op-ups, treatment overall, etc.? Is permanent E+ "worth" the extra effort it takes to maintain 2P? Thanks.
(My feeling is that if being 2P gets me 1 op-up of any kind during the year along with E+, then it's worth it, but what do I know!?!)
LAX
Jul 30, 2005 | 7:51 pm
#23
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 547
Originally Posted by as219
"Is 2P worth it?"
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it?
I fly UA 3-5 times a year midcon, 1-2 transcon, 1-2 transatlantic. This year I am at the upper range, so there's a chance I will make 2P, if I pay about $200 extra to make a transatlantic flight on *A rather than something else. Is it worth it?
If you cut that estimate down to 2-3 midcons a year plus 1 transcon, then it would be a much harder decision - more like the one boeingair faces.
(Not to tempt you or anything, but: 1P is twice as good as 2P. The 100% bonus makes previously undreamed of mileage accrual possible, and reserving exit rows is fantastic. And the previously mythical op-ups actually happen for me now.)
Jul 30, 2005 | 8:38 pm
#24
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA PPro
Posts: 1,008
Originally Posted by as219
...
"Is 2P worth it?" ...
"Is 2P worth it?" ...
My travel patterns are much like yours. I've been 2P for two years now and it's worth more than $200 to me--avoiding the 31" of E- alone is worth it. And priority check-in has saved me more than once from missing a flight.
I say, go for it, and don't look back!
Jul 30, 2005 | 9:00 pm
#25
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: United 1K MM
Posts: 744
Originally Posted by EdisonCarter
For that much, it's definitely worth it. I spent about three years at 2P in two different stints before I ever made 1P. I never got an op-up and very rarely got an upgrade using 500-mile certs (having few certs and being last in line when I tried to use them), but I did enjoy E+ on every flight. Two more benefits that haven't been mentioned are the 25% mileage bonus (not a huge amount, but still nice) and, more importantly, standby priority, which can save the day in irregular operations - you'll still be behind all the 1P's and 1K's, but ahead of everybody else.
If you cut that estimate down to 2-3 midcons a year plus 1 transcon, then it would be a much harder decision - more like the one boeingair faces.
(Not to tempt you or anything, but: 1P is twice as good as 2P. The 100% bonus makes previously undreamed of mileage accrual possible, and reserving exit rows is fantastic. And the previously mythical op-ups actually happen for me now.)
If you cut that estimate down to 2-3 midcons a year plus 1 transcon, then it would be a much harder decision - more like the one boeingair faces.
(Not to tempt you or anything, but: 1P is twice as good as 2P. The 100% bonus makes previously undreamed of mileage accrual possible, and reserving exit rows is fantastic. And the previously mythical op-ups actually happen for me now.)
So far I have done 3 r/t transcons this year, and I see my travel accelerating in the near future. (I pretty much only do transcons) Also, because of FT, flying UA has also become a hobby of sorts, so it would be fun in that respect to make 2P as well.
As for $$ given to UA, I have spent probably around $1200 or $1500 this year on tickets, and my budget is fairly flexible so I don't mind paying my way to 2P.
I'll keep you guys posted on how I qualify, and I hope to continue participating in this great community. ^ ^
Jul 31, 2005 | 10:58 am
#26
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: LAX
Programs: WN A-List
Posts: 1,021
As someone who just made 2P and spent roughly half my time split between E- and E+ I've come to the conclusion that it is not worth it for the following reasons:
1) Basically no shot at ever getting upgraded to first. Especially for those of us stuck mostly on Ted.
2) Early boarding - Sure it feels good to board before everybody else but I've never had a problem finding bin space unless I'm one of the last 10 people to board.
3) Priority security line - Nice perk for those airports that have them, but it doesn't really apply to me.
4) E+ vs. E- This one I thought the hardest about, at 5'9" my knees easily clear the seat in front of me when seated in E-. My issue is more with shoulder room which is identical between the two. About the only thing I miss in E- is the room to open my laptop which is sorely lacking, not a big deal though. As a big E+ fan initially now I can't detect a difference in comfort between the two (at least for me).
So I've come to the conclusion that I won't spend more than a $30 premium to fly UA domestically. If I can requalify for 2P next year I will, but I'm not going to spend much extra money to do it.
1) Basically no shot at ever getting upgraded to first. Especially for those of us stuck mostly on Ted.
2) Early boarding - Sure it feels good to board before everybody else but I've never had a problem finding bin space unless I'm one of the last 10 people to board.
3) Priority security line - Nice perk for those airports that have them, but it doesn't really apply to me.
4) E+ vs. E- This one I thought the hardest about, at 5'9" my knees easily clear the seat in front of me when seated in E-. My issue is more with shoulder room which is identical between the two. About the only thing I miss in E- is the room to open my laptop which is sorely lacking, not a big deal though. As a big E+ fan initially now I can't detect a difference in comfort between the two (at least for me).
So I've come to the conclusion that I won't spend more than a $30 premium to fly UA domestically. If I can requalify for 2P next year I will, but I'm not going to spend much extra money to do it.
Jul 31, 2005 | 12:22 pm
#27
Original Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: United 1K MM
Posts: 744
Hello Everyone,
I'm trying to decipher the routing rules below, but I just can't do it. I'm usually intelligent (enough), but this seems to be getting the best of me. Can you guys make anything of this? It will be for travel from SJC -> OXR.
FROM-TO OXR-UA-LAX-UA-SJC*
FROM-TO OXR-UA-LAX-UA-ONT-UA-SBA-UA-
SFO-UA-OAK-UA-SFO-UA-SJC*
Thanks everyone!
I'm trying to decipher the routing rules below, but I just can't do it.
I'm usually intelligent (enough), but this seems to be getting the best of me. Can you guys make anything of this? It will be for travel from SJC -> OXR.FROM-TO OXR-UA-LAX-UA-SJC*
FROM-TO OXR-UA-LAX-UA-ONT-UA-SBA-UA-
SFO-UA-OAK-UA-SFO-UA-SJC*
Thanks everyone!
Jul 31, 2005 | 6:36 pm
#28
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Programs: MP 1K
Posts: 171
Originally Posted by Dunbar
As someone who just made 2P and spent roughly half my time split between E- and E+ I've come to the conclusion that it is not worth it for the following reasons:
1) Basically no shot at ever getting upgraded to first. Especially for those of us stuck mostly on Ted.
2) Early boarding - Sure it feels good to board before everybody else but I've never had a problem finding bin space unless I'm one of the last 10 people to board.
3) Priority security line - Nice perk for those airports that have them, but it doesn't really apply to me.
4) E+ vs. E- This one I thought the hardest about, at 5'9" my knees easily clear the seat in front of me when seated in E-. My issue is more with shoulder room which is identical between the two. About the only thing I miss in E- is the room to open my laptop which is sorely lacking, not a big deal though. As a big E+ fan initially now I can't detect a difference in comfort between the two (at least for me).
So I've come to the conclusion that I won't spend more than a $30 premium to fly UA domestically. If I can requalify for 2P next year I will, but I'm not going to spend much extra money to do it.
1) Basically no shot at ever getting upgraded to first. Especially for those of us stuck mostly on Ted.
2) Early boarding - Sure it feels good to board before everybody else but I've never had a problem finding bin space unless I'm one of the last 10 people to board.
3) Priority security line - Nice perk for those airports that have them, but it doesn't really apply to me.
4) E+ vs. E- This one I thought the hardest about, at 5'9" my knees easily clear the seat in front of me when seated in E-. My issue is more with shoulder room which is identical between the two. About the only thing I miss in E- is the room to open my laptop which is sorely lacking, not a big deal though. As a big E+ fan initially now I can't detect a difference in comfort between the two (at least for me).
So I've come to the conclusion that I won't spend more than a $30 premium to fly UA domestically. If I can requalify for 2P next year I will, but I'm not going to spend much extra money to do it.
Good reasons all; what about the 25% bonus? For the miles that you fly normally in a year, that itself could be worth between $50-100 right?