F/As make out at 40000 ft
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F/As make out at 40000 ft
Just returned from a SYD MR and on the way back to SFO, Mrs. EX and I were awakened about 7 hrs into the flight, as the ( we think ) male purser and a female F/A took the jumpseat opposite our exit seats in row 45 next to the galley and started making out for the next three or four hours. They moved a lot and frequently kicked my legs ( I am 6'4" ) which kept me from sleeping peacefully, although they apologized each and every time. But they were not at all embarrassed. All in full view of the pax and presumably with the approval of the rest of the crew who came by regularly to join the conversation, one male F/A changed places with the purser to receive his massage. The F/A who ran the galley looked out once and asked the question "so, when are you getting married?". By the way, the couple was in their 40s, I would guess.
Should I report the lovebirds or let is slide? And in case, someone asks me why I didn't say anything to them, the answer is that as in a restaurant, I'd rather not complain to avoid getting a meal where someone spit on, or get bumped in frequently, maybe water spilled on me or the like.
Should I report the lovebirds or let is slide? And in case, someone asks me why I didn't say anything to them, the answer is that as in a restaurant, I'd rather not complain to avoid getting a meal where someone spit on, or get bumped in frequently, maybe water spilled on me or the like.
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I wouldn't say anything.
I hope they found good use for the accessible lavatory.
I hope they found good use for the accessible lavatory.
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Me personally, it doesn't bother me that they were doing it. But it was in plain site of the cabin and passengers and there is a perception issue. They have a "s"crewrest on those 747's in the back end of the aircraft where they could have played all they want.
The flight attendants are supposedly there for our safety, but they are also the image of United to passengers. I'm sure this isn't an image that the airline would want to present.
The flight attendants are supposedly there for our safety, but they are also the image of United to passengers. I'm sure this isn't an image that the airline would want to present.
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It wasn't professional... If it bothered you enough to post about it to FlyerTalk, I would suggest it bothered you enough to merit reporting it...
BTW you DO know that this is the exact situation that camera phones and YouTube were designed for, right?
BTW you DO know that this is the exact situation that camera phones and YouTube were designed for, right?
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Me personally, it doesn't bother me that they were doing it. But it was in plain site of the cabin and passengers and there is a perception issue. They have a "s"crewrest on those 747's in the back end of the aircraft where they could have played all they want.
The flight attendants are supposedly there for our safety, but they are also the image of United to passengers. I'm sure this isn't an image that the airline would want to present.
The flight attendants are supposedly there for our safety, but they are also the image of United to passengers. I'm sure this isn't an image that the airline would want to present.
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I would not complain. It is a long flight and people, including the crew, get bored. Admittedly, their behavior was not consistent with what one would expect from a flight crew. However, would you rather be on a flight where the FAs are rude and cranky, which happens all too often?
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completely inappropriate on the job, imagine doing that at your workplace in front of clients
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C'mon, naysayers. It was a UA 747, so they had to provide their own IFE without powerports, and at the same time, may have provided IFE for a few other passengers.
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Just wait. Just wait.
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Two straight male flight attendants on one flight? Obviously this story is made up.
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I guess I'm prudish, but that's just disgusting. I'd report it in a second if it was me. Not because of some moral objection to it, I believe fully in personal liberties and freedoms, but this isn't about personal liberties, freedoms, or even morality for me (I think it's pretty classless to make out in public, but there is nothing in my mind to stop people from being classless in public, that's their right).
However, United themselves indicates that the FAs are there primarily for your safety and comfort (as the paying passenger). Clearly, they were neither there for their own comfort/gratification. If you were being kicked then certainly they weren't there for your comfort (their apologies aside, what good is an apology when the behavior isn't modified? I think ZERO, it's actually insulting/patronizing at that point).
The only place I could even imagine this would be considered acceptable professional behavior is the skin/smut/gentleman's club industry - even then...
Anyway, I have a personal objection to watching other people make out, it's gross. I also don't like watching other people cut their toe nails, use the toilet, etc, etc. I know there are people out there that *do* and perhaps I'm just weird, but let's face it, you can have an academic debate in a very ivory-tower sense that there is nothing wrong with this, but nearly everyone's gut from any Western culture will tell you this was not acceptable behavior on the job. Don't even consider that this interfered with your comfort/space on the flight to which you were entitled.
I wouldn't have waited for the flight to land, after a few minutes it would have been an immediate request to speak to the captain, request for a skykit, and frankly, a request for the destination station manager to meet the flight. I think the FAA wouldn't look kindly upon such behavior, either.
However, United themselves indicates that the FAs are there primarily for your safety and comfort (as the paying passenger). Clearly, they were neither there for their own comfort/gratification. If you were being kicked then certainly they weren't there for your comfort (their apologies aside, what good is an apology when the behavior isn't modified? I think ZERO, it's actually insulting/patronizing at that point).
The only place I could even imagine this would be considered acceptable professional behavior is the skin/smut/gentleman's club industry - even then...
Anyway, I have a personal objection to watching other people make out, it's gross. I also don't like watching other people cut their toe nails, use the toilet, etc, etc. I know there are people out there that *do* and perhaps I'm just weird, but let's face it, you can have an academic debate in a very ivory-tower sense that there is nothing wrong with this, but nearly everyone's gut from any Western culture will tell you this was not acceptable behavior on the job. Don't even consider that this interfered with your comfort/space on the flight to which you were entitled.
I wouldn't have waited for the flight to land, after a few minutes it would have been an immediate request to speak to the captain, request for a skykit, and frankly, a request for the destination station manager to meet the flight. I think the FAA wouldn't look kindly upon such behavior, either.
Just returned from a SYD MR and on the way back to SFO, Mrs. EX and I were awakened about 7 hrs into the flight, as the ( we think ) male purser and a female F/A took the jumpseat opposite our exit seats in row 45 next to the galley and started making out for the next three or four hours. They moved a lot and frequently kicked my legs ( I am 6'4" ) which kept me from sleeping peacefully, although they apologized each and every time. But they were not at all embarrassed. All in full view of the pax and presumably with the approval of the rest of the crew who came by regularly to join the conversation, one male F/A changed places with the purser to receive his massage. The F/A who ran the galley looked out once and asked the question "so, when are you getting married?". By the way, the couple was in their 40s, I would guess.
Should I report the lovebirds or let is slide? And in case, someone asks me why I didn't say anything to them, the answer is that as in a restaurant, I'd rather not complain to avoid getting a meal where someone spit on, or get bumped in frequently, maybe water spilled on me or the like.
Should I report the lovebirds or let is slide? And in case, someone asks me why I didn't say anything to them, the answer is that as in a restaurant, I'd rather not complain to avoid getting a meal where someone spit on, or get bumped in frequently, maybe water spilled on me or the like.
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Not appropriate at all. If pax started doing this, they would be asked to stop. Same standard (if not a higher standard) should apply to FAs.