Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Discontinued Programs/Partners > United Mileage Plus (Pre-Merger)
Reload this Page >

United to adopt CO globe logo and livery! "Let's Fly Together."

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

United to adopt CO globe logo and livery! "Let's Fly Together."

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 4, 2010, 12:02 pm
  #361  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SNA
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum
Posts: 529
Originally Posted by BearX220
The tulip is plucked. A better brand image is in store... an image supplied by the industry's strongest quality story of the past 20 years... Continental.
Are you kidding? The globe is too generic as is the CO livery in general. The point of the merger was to 'pluck' the best elements from both airlines --clearly that is off to a poor start.
UALpremier is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:03 pm
  #362  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA - 1K 1MM; Hyatt - Explorist; Marriott - Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,586
Originally Posted by UAL awesome
It's about brand recognition, though. I showed my mother the logos of UA and CO this morning without telling her what they were. I showed her the CO globe and asked "Do you know what this is from?" Her answer? "No". I then showed her the Tulip....before I could even speak "That one's easy..it's United". After that, she asked, "Was that other one you showed another airline?" The UA logo putting airlines into her head. That's insanely strong recognition.
From one data point...that volume of data isn't exactly what one would call 'credible'.
vandalby is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:06 pm
  #363  
Used to be PWMRamper
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ATL
Programs: Marriott Platinum
Posts: 999
Last week an Airliners.Net member played with a combined livery, and I figured I'd share it here. It looks QUITE impressive, and showcases both the tulip AND the globe:





He also photoshopped it onto an actual photograph. I gotta say, it looks awesome!

MSPGabe is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:08 pm
  #364  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northeast Kansas | Colorado Native
Programs: Amex Gold/Plat, UA *G, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Gold, NEXUS, TSA Disparager Unobtanium
Posts: 21,682
Originally Posted by PWMRamper
Last week an Airliners.Net member played with a combined livery, and I figured I'd share it here. It looks QUITE impressive, and showcases both the tulip AND the globe:
The 747 with the livery reminded me a bit of a TWA model that I have on my desk... I suppose the Tulip and the globe don't look too bad...
FriendlySkies is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:15 pm
  #365  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA - 1K 1MM; Hyatt - Explorist; Marriott - Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,586
Originally Posted by dfreeman02
To UA: I don't care if you use the CO colors and globe, but get rid of that stupid serif font!
Strange how often I've heard the complaint about the serif font. The gray / blue livery had serif font; the retro, all-white livery from the pre-tulip days had serif font. What's the big deal here?

Frankly, I'm still struggling quite a bit with the reaction over this.

Let's say you could get the livery back, but you would have to make a trade to do so. Would you really trade any of the following?:

- Economy Plus
- SWUs
- CR-1s
- Channel 9

I can't imagine anyone that's currently receiving / regularly using any of the above benefits that would trade them in over the livery. I believe you should save your chips for the important things - starting a letter writing campaign to corporate over something as trivial is this is nothing short of stupid.

Besides, airline livery and logos change all the time. Will this get you 10 years of 'happiness' until the next logo / livery change comes along? Please...
vandalby is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:16 pm
  #366  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SNA
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum
Posts: 529
Originally Posted by PWMRamper
Last week an Airliners.Net member played with a combined livery, and I figured I'd share it here. It looks QUITE impressive, and showcases both the tulip AND the globe:


I doubt no one would be complaining if they had done that. I think the critics here do not understand that Smisek-Tilton are jettisoning a decades old brand. It would be like Delta minus the widget or clipping the wings off American's eagle.

Originally Posted by vandalby

Frankly, I'm still struggling quite a bit with the reaction over this.

Let's say you could get the livery back, but you would have to make a trade to do so. Would you really trade any of the following?:

- Economy Plus
- SWUs
- CR-1s
- Channel 9
That's a false choice if ever I heard one. But it brings up a good point, if the new management basically is imposing CO's Modus operandi should we be concerned for E+, C-9, and all the other United perks that UAL fans love?

Last edited by iluv2fly; May 4, 2010 at 5:19 pm Reason: merge
UALpremier is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:17 pm
  #367  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: DCA ZWU
Programs: AGR WOH
Posts: 1,785
Originally Posted by quantumslip
Saw this on Airliners.net. As they pointed out, adding "Airlines" make a huge difference!
Plucking the stem off the U makes an even huge-r difference.

I'm still concerned about the other branding elements. Kaplan Thaler, CO's ad agency, deliberately contrasts CO's "simple, straightforward style" against "the flowery imagery of typical airline ads." It'll depend on which agency wins the combined contract, since the transactional vs. aspirational styles are worlds apart -- although, of course, the new airline should announce itself with an entirely new campaign, and might choose a new agency for that.
paytonc is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:28 pm
  #368  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: A lovely little town filled with cows
Programs: US2, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold
Posts: 3,284
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
It the words of Rhett Butler "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn"

I am far more concerned about the routes, the seats, the esprit de corp of the employees, the elite benes, .... The color, the font, the name, .... don't contribute to my travel experience.

back to the serif vs sans serif debate....
I am somewhat concerned about the logo because IMO it sets the tone for the experience you're about to have. Do you want a shoddy, rushed, ill-thought-out experience or a well-refined and relaxing one?

If they can't get the logo right, why should I believe they'll get the rest of it right (those things you are far more concerned about)?

Originally Posted by PWMRamper
Last week an Airliners.Net member played with a combined livery, and I figured I'd share it here. It looks QUITE impressive, and showcases both the tulip AND the globe:

He also photoshopped it onto an actual photograph. I gotta say, it looks awesome!

Indeed it does. Edit the yellow tulip next to the "UNITED" text and fix the font and I'd consider this a nice compromise.
vysean is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:31 pm
  #369  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: LAX-- But I'd rather be on Brokeback Mountain. United 1K! Other
Programs: RCC,HHonors Diamond,HGVC Elite,SPG Plat,Hyatt Diamond,Nat'l Emerald Exec Elite, Disney Premier Pass
Posts: 2,472
Originally Posted by plaintruthiness


These are iconic corporate branding logos (or at least the first letter) instantly recognized around the "globe." Where's Continental's?

I think the 2 CEOs had too many champagnes when they decided to trash the United logo.

(from The ABC's of Branding by Jason Dean)
The only one I don't recognize is the "L"

Also, the Target logo does not belong... it is not a letter. "Target" does not even have an "O"?!

Last edited by JonathanIT; May 4, 2010 at 12:54 pm Reason: added complaint
JonathanIT is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:32 pm
  #370  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Washington, DC, USA
Programs: UA MM, MB LifeTit
Posts: 1,835
I like the livery. Perhaps the best thing about it is that it implies that they didn't spend some ridiculous money with "brand consultants."
EricH is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:35 pm
  #371  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SNA
Programs: AAdvantage Platinum
Posts: 529
Originally Posted by EricH
I like the livery. Perhaps the best thing about it is that it implies that they didn't spend some ridiculous money with "brand consultants."
And they wouldn't have had to if they just left the tulip in place
UALpremier is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:42 pm
  #372  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: EWR/GRU/BSL/HND
Programs: UA, DL, AC25k
Posts: 230
Originally Posted by JonathanIT
The only one I don't recognize is the "L"
Perhaps Leggett & Platt
http://www.leggett.com/

or Lindt?
http://www.lindtusa.com/
ams30 is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:51 pm
  #373  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: DFW
Programs: UA Pleb, HH Gold, PWP General Secretary
Posts: 23,199
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 3_1_3 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.18 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile/7E18 Safari/528.16)

For all of the tulip lovers, not all of the planes in ua fleet have the new livery. At least with the co livery you have a plurality in the correct colors from the start.

Also, CO management will insure that all planes are repainted quickly.

I think if the ua fleet was all in one livery then it would have stood a better chance of staying.
colpuck is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:53 pm
  #374  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: UA 1K 1MM (finally!), IHG AMB-Spire, HH Diamond
Posts: 60,249
Originally Posted by vandalby
Let's say you could get the livery back, but you would have to make a trade to do so. Would you really trade any of the following?:

- Economy Plus
- SWUs
- CR-1s
- Channel 9
False choice really, but I'd give up Channel 9 easy. My (at the time 3yr old) little girl recognized the tulip when adorning envelopes in the mail..."airplane!"

AT&T was a disaster to so many, yet its logo remains intact despite being consumed in a transaction. With a splash of orange. If the brand name is worth keeping at least one distinctive iconic element of its branding should be retained.
uastarflyer is offline  
Old May 4, 2010, 12:55 pm
  #375  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: BA/AA/AS/B6/WN/ UA/HH/MR and more like 'em but most felicitously & importantly MUCCI
Posts: 19,724
Originally Posted by plaintruthiness
These are iconic corporate branding logos (or at least the first letter) instantly recognized around the "globe." Where's Continental's?
For that matter, where's Singapore, or Cathay Pacific, or British Airways, or Emirates, or Lufthansa, or JAL, or American, or Korean, or South African, or...

Are you saying none of those "iconic" brands are as strong as the UA tulip?

Making the cover of that silly little book is no test. If anything the book proves that recognition does not equal positive equity; the "E" on the book is Enron's.

Moving on.
BearX220 is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.