April/May 2010 - Volcanic Activity in Iceland and Impact to United's Operations
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April/May 2010 - Volcanic Activity in Iceland and Impact to United's Operations
Yup. Volcanoes in London!!! Run for your lives!
UA page here.
I know, Iceland, but can't they just fly around it?
UA page here.
I know, Iceland, but can't they just fly around it?
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LOL. "Following the eruption of a volcano in Iceland earlier (Wednesday), the Met Office (weather forecasting service) have advised airlines that the ash plume may reach UK air space overnight,"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...7BF4RhloTmAMfw
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...7BF4RhloTmAMfw
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There's this thing called "wind"...
NLM. Volcanic ash is an extremely dangerous condition for aircraft. It can shut down an engine as easily as a bird strike and covers a vastly larger area.
NLM. Volcanic ash is an extremely dangerous condition for aircraft. It can shut down an engine as easily as a bird strike and covers a vastly larger area.
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@UnitedAirlines has already sent out three separte tweets about it. I guess they're really trying to get the word out to (now stranded) passengers.
I guess no one wants to repeat BA flight 9:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9
I guess no one wants to repeat BA flight 9:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_9
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Bob, Keflavik (BIKF) is a key alternate for ETOPS. And the ash will drift. As long as its out there, it can and will disrupt operations. And justifiably so. Volcanic ash in a jet engine is a nasty business.
There's a thread about this over on PPrune: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...r-traffic.html Quite a mess in Norway and the UK.
There's a thread about this over on PPrune: http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...r-traffic.html Quite a mess in Norway and the UK.
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Wow, people who actually think a volcanic eruption is a funny matter. What's the big deal with some smoke? Haha.
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I depart tomorrow ogg-lax-lhr-bhd hope it has blown away by then!
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Morning TV in London has talked of "huge disruption" for transAtlantic flights ("all UK airports") as a result of the ash cloud. 90% of all flights out of the international UK airports are expected to be affected, along with similar problems at domestic airports. Interestingly, UA's status page does not currently evidence the same alarm -- I guess they too are tracking the progress of the ash. Since the volcano is still erupting, if you were planning to fly into or out of Scotland, Ireland, or England today it's going to be ugly!
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I wonder, in a situation like this, is it even an option to turn some of those cancelled LHR flights into CDG/BRU flights to let people get at least close?
Although it's probably too complicated, and people generally want to land in the country they planned on, and may not think of such options....
It should certainly be a good day for Eurostar.
Although it's probably too complicated, and people generally want to land in the country they planned on, and may not think of such options....
It should certainly be a good day for Eurostar.
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Sweden airspace north of 63N and all Norway airspace are closed...definitely not conditions to take an airplane into.
But I'm curious about long term contingencies, especially if emergency access to KEF is an ETOPS requirement. If Eyjafjallajoekull is really entering an period of increased activity -- this is the second eruption in a month -- is there contingency plan to keep to TATL traffic running reasonably reliably in the longer term (months/year)? I'm not even sure what authority would be responsible for this kind of planning?
But I'm curious about long term contingencies, especially if emergency access to KEF is an ETOPS requirement. If Eyjafjallajoekull is really entering an period of increased activity -- this is the second eruption in a month -- is there contingency plan to keep to TATL traffic running reasonably reliably in the longer term (months/year)? I'm not even sure what authority would be responsible for this kind of planning?
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The jet stream is right on top of erupting Eyjafjallajoekull (yes, it's a mouthful).
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I wonder, in a situation like this, is it even an option to turn some of those cancelled LHR flights into CDG/BRU flights to let people get at least close?
Although it's probably too complicated, and people generally want to land in the country they planned on, and may not think of such options....
Although it's probably too complicated, and people generally want to land in the country they planned on, and may not think of such options....
But obviously it could be a good solution for proactive passengers with the appropriate passports.
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Sweden airspace north of 63N and all Norway airspace...definitely not conditions to take an airplane into.
But I'm curious about long term contingencies, especially if emergency access to KEF is an ETOPS requirement. If Eyjafjallajoekull is really entering an period of increased activity -- this is the second eruption in a month -- is there contingency plan to keep to TATL traffic running reasonably reliably in the longer term (months/year)? I'm not even sure what authority would be responsible for this kind of planning?
But I'm curious about long term contingencies, especially if emergency access to KEF is an ETOPS requirement. If Eyjafjallajoekull is really entering an period of increased activity -- this is the second eruption in a month -- is there contingency plan to keep to TATL traffic running reasonably reliably in the longer term (months/year)? I'm not even sure what authority would be responsible for this kind of planning?
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This is turning into a real pain in the ash!
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UA has cancelled its last three incoming flights to LHR today. Its afternoon arriving flights to FRA are running very late, with significantly extended flight times. The SFO/FRA flight (at least when I have been on it) flies pretty well over LHR, so I'm guessing that route diversions will cover pretty well all of UA's TATL flights and introduce delays.