Everything You Want to Know About Where to Sit on a sUA 767 (3-class International)
#61
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Excellent review, as219! Jeez, what is it with you sitting across from FT'ers.
Really makes me want to try out the new config...
Really makes me want to try out the new config...
#62
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Great Report!
I can't wait to try the seat tomorrow! Now at least I have some idea on what to expect.
I can't wait to try the seat tomorrow! Now at least I have some idea on what to expect.
#63
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Nice review, thanks for posting such detailed comments! I'm a big fan of the new seats, not just the lie flat and improved IFE, but also because the fit and finish of the cabin is just so classy. ^
My initial perception was that the cabin appeared less roomy than the old C seats when seats were upright, but more roomy when seats were reclined (because as you mention seats don't recline into you).
I know when I flew in the new cabin, the F/As had a lot of problems managing with less galley space and lav access was often blocked by carts when the service was being prepared. Did you notice any of those issues?
UA sure has a winner here and I can't wait to try it on the 747 and 777!
My initial perception was that the cabin appeared less roomy than the old C seats when seats were upright, but more roomy when seats were reclined (because as you mention seats don't recline into you).
I know when I flew in the new cabin, the F/As had a lot of problems managing with less galley space and lav access was often blocked by carts when the service was being prepared. Did you notice any of those issues?
UA sure has a winner here and I can't wait to try it on the 747 and 777!
#64
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I miss having a seat pocket in front of me. I wanted a place to put my phone, my book, a couple other miscellaneous things.. there's really nowhere to put stuff - if you put anything on that shelf, it will fall off during takeoff/landing.
Otherwise, I pretty much agree with what you've said. I flew in these seats, like you did, on a surprise aircraft swap SFO->JFK last week.
Otherwise, I pretty much agree with what you've said. I flew in these seats, like you did, on a surprise aircraft swap SFO->JFK last week.
#65
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I have a few ps flights coming up, so you have me hoping hoping hoping to get an aircraft swap
#66
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Nice report! ^ Can't wait to try the new product myself
#67
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Thank you as219 for such a thoughtful post! I especially like your observation above. I can't wait to fly in such seat myself (but at the current rate of conversion and my non-transatlantic, non-domestic-widebody travel profile, I won't hold my breath. )
#68
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Top notch review! Great tip about the AVOD pause issue.
#69
Great report!
Can someone update us on what routes we can expect the 763/new seats on? Is IAD-FRA a sure thing now? Or is that even still up in the air (no pun intended)?
Can someone update us on what routes we can expect the 763/new seats on? Is IAD-FRA a sure thing now? Or is that even still up in the air (no pun intended)?
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Very Nice report! Thanks as219! ^
#71
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I apologize in advance for the quality... I was using my phone camera, which, while decent, isn't great. I tried to snap a few pics that illustrated the feel of the cabin and the relative size/placement of its different elements.
The only thing that struck me as a weird omission was the lack of any real storage pocket for your personal effects. When I board, I usually have a book, noise-cancelling headphones, and a bottle of water in hand -- in the new C, it was awkward to find space around me for those things.
I disagree about the across the aisle facing seats being a plus. It may be great if you know the person sitting there, but it seemed like an invasion of personal space to me. (Fortunately, the cabin was mostly empty when I flew, and so I just switched seats and got much more privacy).
Here's a link to my (small) flickr photo set of the new seats, for those who've not seen them:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattbla...7604660835448/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mattbla...7604660835448/
I didn't hear the FAs complaining, but I did notice that the aisles are pretty narrow and that when sleeping on my back, with the armrest down, I got bumped a few times. A reason to prefer a non-aisle seat? One thing I didn't really test out was how difficult it is to "jump over" the person next to you when s/he is in the lie-flat position. I hate being stuck inside. Can anyone speak to the difficulty/ease of getting out from the window seat when your seatmate is sleeping?
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#72
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One more thing that some people may not know is that the 15 inch monitor is also touchscreen, so you can navigate the menus through either the remote control or the actual screen surface.
#73
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Now that's what I call a problem of prosperity!
#74
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Have flown the new C class once (FRA to IAD), somewhere around January.
Definitely a great improvement, although I did note the privacy issue with the backwards-facing seats. I faced the back and another pax -- not next to me, but in a row further aft -- had a clear line of sight to my seat. Made for some awkward eye contact, I suppose, but didn't really bother me.
Definitely a great improvement, although I did note the privacy issue with the backwards-facing seats. I faced the back and another pax -- not next to me, but in a row further aft -- had a clear line of sight to my seat. Made for some awkward eye contact, I suppose, but didn't really bother me.
#75
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Have flown the new C class once (FRA to IAD), somewhere around January.
Definitely a great improvement, although I did note the privacy issue with the backwards-facing seats. I faced the back and another pax -- not next to me, but in a row further aft -- had a clear line of sight to my seat. Made for some awkward eye contact, I suppose, but didn't really bother me.
Definitely a great improvement, although I did note the privacy issue with the backwards-facing seats. I faced the back and another pax -- not next to me, but in a row further aft -- had a clear line of sight to my seat. Made for some awkward eye contact, I suppose, but didn't really bother me.