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UA363 EWR-HNL Diverted to SFO March 29, 2024

UA363 EWR-HNL Diverted to SFO March 29, 2024

Old Mar 30, 2024, 12:44 pm
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UA363 EWR-HNL Diverted to SFO March 29, 2024

EWR-HNL was diverted yesterday to SFO. Looks like it was over northern CA and then turned back a bit to land at SFO. Anyone on that flight or know the reason? UA app shows it was scheduled to continue on from SFO to HNL but that part was cancelled.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by trebex
EWR-HNL was diverted yesterday to SFO. Looks like it was over northern CA and then turned back a bit to land at SFO. Anyone on that flight or know the reason? UA app shows it was scheduled to continue on from SFO to HNL but that part was cancelled.
The usual routing is over Northern MT, from where it started to head to SFO (ie: it wasn't over Northern CA when they decided to divert).

In any event, are we going to get a separate thread for every flight interruption?

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Originally Posted by trebex
EWR-HNL was diverted yesterday to SFO. Looks like it was over northern CA and then turned back a bit to land at SFO. Anyone on that flight or know the reason? UA app shows it was scheduled to continue on from SFO to HNL but that part was cancelled.
​​​​​​For the record, this was yesterday's flight (March 29, 2024). Aircraft in question is a 764 (767-400) #N77066

The decision to divert actually took place long before the aircraft reached CA. The flight tracking showed a sharp southernly turn while flying over Montana.

Looks like the aircraft had some kind of mechanical issues. Required more time to fix, and it is now being ferried to IAD (from SFO). 764 is not a normal aircraft seen at SFO, so getting another one would be tough, am guessing the reason for the cancellation of the SFO-HNL leg, and affected pax would be re-accommodated with other available flights to HNL.

Ps. EWR<->HNL are performing some of its last flights...
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by malgudi
The usual routing is over Northern MT, from where it started to head to SFO (ie: it wasn't over Northern CA when they decided to divert).

In any event, are we going to get a separate thread for every flight interruption?
Not necessarily. The route varies. It could have been heading southwest from Montana toward the California coast. The flight path shows it turn back toward the northwest toward SFO. And if there were a mechanical problem over Montana, why didn't they land sooner? SEA, PDX, BOI, SLC, even DEN are all closer than SFO.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by malgudi

In any event, are we going to get a separate thread for every flight interruption?
whats the objection to informing people over the many recent mechanical issues on United?
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by trebex
... And if there were a mechanical problem over Montana, why didn't they land sooner? SEA, PDX, BOI, SLC, even DEN are all closer than SFO.
Maybe it was a lav issue rather than a flying-the-plane issue? Enough toilets left for New Yorkers to SFO, but not to HNL? Plus getting passengers to HNL from SFO much easier for UA than from the airports you mentioned.

I'm on that flight in exactly two weeks - hope it's back to normal...
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
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Ps. EWR<->HNL are performing some of its last flights...
I think that is just a change for the summer, right? I booked HNL-EWR in December as the last leg of my Island Hopper jaunt

I did see this diversion as the bird was originally going to be used for todays HNL-EWR (which I will also be on). At least it was well in advance where the schedule makers could source another plane.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
I think that is just a change for the summer, right? I booked HNL-EWR in December as the last leg of my Island Hopper jaunt…
HNL-EWR nonstop does appear to be bookable from October 27, which is good news.
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Originally Posted by Dyce
what’s the objection to informing people over the many recent mechanical issues on United?
None. There are existing threads for delayed/cancelled/diverted flights, better to post there.
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Originally Posted by trebex
Not necessarily. The route varies. It could have been heading southwest from Montana toward the California coast. The flight path shows it turn back toward the northwest toward SFO. And if there were a mechanical problem over Montana, why didn't they land sooner? SEA, PDX, BOI, SLC, even DEN are all closer than SFO.
Under normal circumstance, route planning would never take the northern track over Montana and then take a such sharp southwest turn to California before heading to Hawaii, that is much longer than staying close to the northern border and slowly dip southwest.




The reason for the SFO diversion over other (closer) airports is easy...UA has determined aircraft can continue for a bit, and SFO offers more resources and easier logistics.
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Under normal circumstance, route planning would never take the northern track over Montana and then take a such sharp southwest turn to California before heading to Hawaii, that is much longer than staying close to the northern border and slowly dip southwest.

The reason for the SFO diversion over other (closer) airports is easy...UA has determined aircraft can continue for a bit, and SFO offers more resources and easier logistics.
Exactly -- where is it better to re-accommodate passengers -- PDX or SFO? As long as the plane is safe this was by far the best option for all involved.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Under normal circumstance, route planning would never take the northern track over Montana and then take a such sharp southwest turn to California before heading to Hawaii, that is much longer than staying close to the northern border and slowly dip southwest...
Yesterday's UA363 track


Given the weather in the California area this weekend, going around the area would be would be a more normal choice. The bumps and jags as the plane approached SFO were likely weather related.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 5:51 pm
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There have been some very strong westerly winds aloft recently. Deviations from the most direct route are often due to the winds.

The threshold for continuing a flight is significantly higher for crossing oceans (ETOPS) than it is over land. Many of the deferable maintenance items prohibit ETOPS flights. If one of those items failed enroute, a diversion would be made prior to entering oceanic airspace but the choice of the domestic diversion point would be flexible. For example, ETOPS operation on the 737 requires an operable APU while non-ETOPS flights can be dispatched without one.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Dyce
whats the objection to informing people over the many recent mechanical issues on United?
I think the issue is that maintenance issues happen hundreds of time each day, across all airlines. An individual thread for each of them would completely overwhelm the forums.

I also think that, given the thousands of flights operated each day by UA and the current tendency to post each UA mx issue, the lack of more threads serves as confirmation that UA is doing very well in terms of overall reliability.

Remember, Delta recently had a wheel come off of a plane (757 in ATL) and a panel come loose inflight (an A330 SLC-AMS, requiring an air return), yet no media coverage or FAA scrutiny.
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Old Mar 30, 2024, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Dyce
whats the objection to informing people over the many recent mechanical issues on United?
There's avherald.com for that.
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