Pilots Locking Lavatory Door In Polaris
Mar 6, 2024, 6:49 am
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As a ten-year UA 737 pilot I can assure you that never happens. It would not be accepted by anyone on the crew. When a lav is closed it is due to a maintenance restriction as described earlier in the thread. We do not need to lock the lav in between pilots because, we're not augmented, and, unlike the 767-400, we block off the front galley with a cart.
Mar 6, 2024, 8:39 am
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As a ten-year UA 737 pilot I can assure you that never happens. It would not be accepted by anyone on the crew. When a lav is closed it is due to a maintenance restriction as described earlier in the thread. We do not need to lock the lav in between pilots because, we're not augmented, and, unlike the 767-400, we block off the front galley with a cart.
Pick your battles here Larry. We both understand how rediculous this claim is yet here we are at 100+ posts.
Never has any pilot (or FA) Ive flown with even remotely sugggested to permanently block a lavatory for non-maintenance related reasons. Any crewmember that intends to do anything like that would be shut down immediately.
I just cant believe how this thread continues to have legs.
Mar 6, 2024, 11:09 am
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Pick your battles here Larry. We both understand how rediculous this claim is yet here we are at 100+ posts.
Never has any pilot (or FA) Ive flown with even remotely sugggested to permanently block a lavatory for non-maintenance related reasons. Any crewmember that intends to do anything like that would be shut down immediately.
I just cant believe how this thread continues to have legs.
Never has any pilot (or FA) Ive flown with even remotely sugggested to permanently block a lavatory for non-maintenance related reasons. Any crewmember that intends to do anything like that would be shut down immediately.
I just cant believe how this thread continues to have legs.
Its obviously an issue, if not widespread, but if it should not be happening, then United needs to address it with a policy and proper communication to both employees and customers so expectations are set accordingly.
Mar 6, 2024, 11:55 am
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What would be fabricated? I don't see anyone discounting their experiences--just their conclusions. It is perfectly common for a lav to be legal for crew use and out of service for passengers. It's the weird conspiracy theories that they're discounting.
Mar 6, 2024, 1:31 pm
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As a ten-year UA 737 pilot I can assure you that never happens. It would not be accepted by anyone on the crew. When a lav is closed it is due to a maintenance restriction as described earlier in the thread. We do not need to lock the lav in between pilots because, we're not augmented, and, unlike the 767-400, we block off the front galley with a cart.
Mar 6, 2024, 2:24 pm
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So 100 posts later were assuming the experience of the OP and a few others with similar observations to be fabricated?
Its obviously an issue, if not widespread, but if it should not be happening, then United needs to address it with a policy and proper communication to both employees and customers so expectations are set accordingly.
Its obviously an issue, if not widespread, but if it should not be happening, then United needs to address it with a policy and proper communication to both employees and customers so expectations are set accordingly.
If we want to entertain the conversation about the rates of lavatories being deferred by maintenance, thats completely fair. Still dont think even that is a rampant problem, but yes - it does happen.
However to suggest that there is a widespread issue of pilots reserving the lavatory solely for themselvesthat is just flagrantly inaccurate.
Mar 6, 2024, 3:20 pm
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The OPs aircraft in question had a deferred lavatory per MEL. There was never any pilot commandeering the bathroom for themselves.
If we want to entertain the conversation about the rates of lavatories being deferred by maintenance, thats completely fair. Still dont think even that is a rampant problem, but yes - it does happen.
However to suggest that there is a widespread issue of pilots reserving the lavatory solely for themselvesthat is just flagrantly inaccurate.
If we want to entertain the conversation about the rates of lavatories being deferred by maintenance, thats completely fair. Still dont think even that is a rampant problem, but yes - it does happen.
However to suggest that there is a widespread issue of pilots reserving the lavatory solely for themselvesthat is just flagrantly inaccurate.
Mar 6, 2024, 4:00 pm
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Not sure if all these anecdotes of crew-locked lavs are true or not. I highly doubt it though.
If this practice exists, it's almost certainly not widespread, IMO.
Although, simply because I never saw/noticed anything like this myself, this conclusion is more based on the theory of law-of-averages as opposed to empirical evidence.
What's really fascinating, however, is that the mistrust and disconnect between passengers and UA crew is apparently so profound, that such stories are often readily believed by quite a few, and many times on hearsay only.
"Us" vs. "them", what a real shame.
If this practice exists, it's almost certainly not widespread, IMO.
Although, simply because I never saw/noticed anything like this myself, this conclusion is more based on the theory of law-of-averages as opposed to empirical evidence.
What's really fascinating, however, is that the mistrust and disconnect between passengers and UA crew is apparently so profound, that such stories are often readily believed by quite a few, and many times on hearsay only.
"Us" vs. "them", what a real shame.
Mar 6, 2024, 5:20 pm
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Not sure if all these anecdotes of crew-locked lavs are true or not. I highly doubt it though.
If this practice exists, it's almost certainly not widespread, IMO.
Although, simply because I never saw/noticed anything like this myself, this conclusion is more based on the theory of law-of-averages as opposed to empirical evidence.
What's really fascinating, however, is that the mistrust and disconnect between passengers and UA crew is apparently so profound, that such stories are often readily believed by quite a few, and many times on hearsay only.
"Us" vs. "them", what a real shame.
If this practice exists, it's almost certainly not widespread, IMO.
Although, simply because I never saw/noticed anything like this myself, this conclusion is more based on the theory of law-of-averages as opposed to empirical evidence.
What's really fascinating, however, is that the mistrust and disconnect between passengers and UA crew is apparently so profound, that such stories are often readily believed by quite a few, and many times on hearsay only.
"Us" vs. "them", what a real shame.
The average travelling public would see something like this perhaps, well, not "never" - but damn close to it!
Mar 6, 2024, 8:11 pm
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So 100 posts later were assuming the experience of the OP and a few others with similar observations to be fabricated?
Its obviously an issue, if not widespread, but if it should not be happening, then United needs to address it with a policy and proper communication to both employees and customers so expectations are set accordingly.
Its obviously an issue, if not widespread, but if it should not be happening, then United needs to address it with a policy and proper communication to both employees and customers so expectations are set accordingly.
Mar 11, 2024, 10:49 am
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Today on UA2327 ORD-SAV, captain said forward lav inoperable because the trash receptacle isn't functioning. On a 737-800 with no midcabin lav. Not a big deal, but was following this thread and it's actually the first time it's happened to me (only a Plat this year, but 14 segments so far this year), so thought it was interesting.
Mar 11, 2024, 11:43 am
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Today on UA2327 ORD-SAV, captain said forward lav inoperable because the trash receptacle isn't functioning. On a 737-800 with no midcabin lav. Not a big deal, but was following this thread and it's actually the first time it's happened to me (only a Plat this year, but 14 segments so far this year), so thought it was interesting.
Mar 11, 2024, 11:48 am
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The trash receptable in the lav must have an automatic fire suppression system. When that system is inoperative, the lav can not be used by passengers.
Mar 11, 2024, 11:53 am
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