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UA164 EWR 10:15 PM DXB 7:40 PM next day 772 13 hrs 25 mins Daily (except Sunday 26 March) starting 25 March 2023
UA163 DXB 2:15 AM EWR 9:05 AM 772 14 hrs 50 mins Daily Starting 28 March 2023
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UA163 DXB 2:15 AM EWR 9:05 AM 772 14 hrs 50 mins Daily Starting 28 March 2023
United and Emirates Expand Market Presence Through New Agreement
September 14, 2022 Operations
United to launch new nonstop flights between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March of 2023;
United customers can soon connect through Dubai to more than 100 destinations and Emirates customers can more easily fly to nearly 200 U.S cities through Chicago, San Francisco and Houston
CHICAGO and DUBAI, Sept. 14, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United and Emirates announced a historic commercial agreement today that will enhance each airline's network and give their customers easier access to hundreds of destinations within the United States and around the world*.
United will launch a new direct flight between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March 2023 – from there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities. Tickets for United's new Dubai flight are now on sale.
Starting in November, Emirates customers flying into three of the nation's biggest business hubs – Chicago, San Francisco and Houston – will have access to nearly 200 U.S. cities in the United network – most of which only require a one-stop connection. At eight other U.S. airports served by Emirates – Boston, Dallas, LA, Miami, JFK, Orlando, Seattle and Washington DC – both airlines will have an interline arrangement in place.
United and Emirates announced their agreement today at a ceremonial event at Dulles International Airport, hosted by United CEO Scott Kirby and Emirates President Sir Tim Clark, featuring United and Emirates Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and flight crews from each carrier.
"This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "United's new flight to Dubai and our complementary networks will make global travel easier for millions of our customers, helping boost local economies and strengthen cultural ties. This is a proud moment for both United and Emirates employees, and I look forward to our journey together."
"Two of the biggest, and best-known airlines in the world are joining hands to fly people better to more places, at a time when travel demand is rebounding with a vengeance. It's a significant partnership that will unlock tremendous consumer benefit and bring the United Arab Emirates and the United States even closer," said Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline. "We welcome United's return to Dubai next year, where our hub Dubai essentially becomes a gateway for United to reach Asia, Africa and the Middle East via the combined network of Emirates and flydubai. We look forward to developing our partnership with United for the long term."
Soon customers of both airlines can book these connecting flights on a single ticket – making check-in and luggage transfer faster and easier. For example – travelers will be able to visit United.com or use the United app to book a flight from Newark/New York to Karachi, Pakistan or go to Emirates.com to book a flight from Dubai to Atlanta or Honolulu.
This agreement will also give the loyalty program members of both airlines more opportunities for more rewards: United MileagePlus® members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights. Eligible United customers will also soon have access to Emirates lounges when connecting to and from United's new Dubai flight.
Both airlines have recently announced significant investments in the customer experience. Emirates will retrofit more than 120 aircraft as part of a $2 billion effort that includes elevated meal choices, a brand-new vegan menu, a 'cinema in the sky' experience, cabin interior upgrades, and sustainable choices. At United, the airline will add 500 new Boeing and Airbus aircraft to its fleet with a focus on a new signature interior that includes seat-back screens in every seat, larger overhead bins, Bluetooth connectivity throughout, and the industry's fastest available in-flight WiFi.
* Codeshare activities and United's new flight to Dubai are subject to government approvals.
September 14, 2022 Operations
United to launch new nonstop flights between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March of 2023;
United customers can soon connect through Dubai to more than 100 destinations and Emirates customers can more easily fly to nearly 200 U.S cities through Chicago, San Francisco and Houston
CHICAGO and DUBAI, Sept. 14, 2022 /PRNewswire/ -- United and Emirates announced a historic commercial agreement today that will enhance each airline's network and give their customers easier access to hundreds of destinations within the United States and around the world*.
United will launch a new direct flight between Newark/New York and Dubai starting in March 2023 – from there, customers can travel on Emirates or its sister airline flydubai to more than 100 different cities. Tickets for United's new Dubai flight are now on sale.
Starting in November, Emirates customers flying into three of the nation's biggest business hubs – Chicago, San Francisco and Houston – will have access to nearly 200 U.S. cities in the United network – most of which only require a one-stop connection. At eight other U.S. airports served by Emirates – Boston, Dallas, LA, Miami, JFK, Orlando, Seattle and Washington DC – both airlines will have an interline arrangement in place.
United and Emirates announced their agreement today at a ceremonial event at Dulles International Airport, hosted by United CEO Scott Kirby and Emirates President Sir Tim Clark, featuring United and Emirates Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and flight crews from each carrier.
"This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "United's new flight to Dubai and our complementary networks will make global travel easier for millions of our customers, helping boost local economies and strengthen cultural ties. This is a proud moment for both United and Emirates employees, and I look forward to our journey together."
"Two of the biggest, and best-known airlines in the world are joining hands to fly people better to more places, at a time when travel demand is rebounding with a vengeance. It's a significant partnership that will unlock tremendous consumer benefit and bring the United Arab Emirates and the United States even closer," said Sir Tim Clark, President Emirates Airline. "We welcome United's return to Dubai next year, where our hub Dubai essentially becomes a gateway for United to reach Asia, Africa and the Middle East via the combined network of Emirates and flydubai. We look forward to developing our partnership with United for the long term."
Soon customers of both airlines can book these connecting flights on a single ticket – making check-in and luggage transfer faster and easier. For example – travelers will be able to visit United.com or use the United app to book a flight from Newark/New York to Karachi, Pakistan or go to Emirates.com to book a flight from Dubai to Atlanta or Honolulu.
This agreement will also give the loyalty program members of both airlines more opportunities for more rewards: United MileagePlus® members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights. Eligible United customers will also soon have access to Emirates lounges when connecting to and from United's new Dubai flight.
Both airlines have recently announced significant investments in the customer experience. Emirates will retrofit more than 120 aircraft as part of a $2 billion effort that includes elevated meal choices, a brand-new vegan menu, a 'cinema in the sky' experience, cabin interior upgrades, and sustainable choices. At United, the airline will add 500 new Boeing and Airbus aircraft to its fleet with a focus on a new signature interior that includes seat-back screens in every seat, larger overhead bins, Bluetooth connectivity throughout, and the industry's fastest available in-flight WiFi.
* Codeshare activities and United's new flight to Dubai are subject to government approvals.
Emirates Business Class Lounge
Location: Terminal 3, Concourse A and Concourse B
Eligibility
Location: Terminal 3, Concourse A and Concourse B
Eligibility
- United Polaris® business class customers
Consolidated DXB connections / Emirates (EK) codeshares / logistics / lounges / ....
Sep 14, 2022, 12:01 pm
#106
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Don't forget we are over a year in and we've yet to see a single narrow-body plane get retrofitted with NEXT
Sep 14, 2022, 12:04 pm
#107
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And I would not be surprised if it were miles only -- no PQP/PQF.
Having EK as a redemption option could be nice, however..
Sep 14, 2022, 12:11 pm
#109
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This is a big win for EK because of much larger DXB-USA passenger volumes. UA's passenger volumes to DXB and beyond are rather limited.
I was hoping that EK would join *A so that we could visit EK lounges in USA while flying domestically.
I was hoping that EK would join *A so that we could visit EK lounges in USA while flying domestically.
Sep 14, 2022, 12:11 pm
#110
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"United MileagePlus® members flying on United's Newark/New York to Dubai flight can soon earn and redeem miles when connecting beyond on Emirates and flydubai and Emirates Skywards members will be able to earn miles when they travel on United operated flights"
Does this mean we only earn PQP/PQF/miles for Emirate operated flight when connecting through United in Dubai? I wish they did mutual earnings for all the flights irrespective of the route
Does this mean we only earn PQP/PQF/miles for Emirate operated flight when connecting through United in Dubai? I wish they did mutual earnings for all the flights irrespective of the route
Sep 14, 2022, 12:23 pm
#113
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That's how I read it, although the proof will be in the pudding. It's fairly common for codeshare-type arrangements. UA and EK remain competitors, so UA isn't really interested in rewarding people for flying EK when they could be flying UA instead.
And I would not be surprised if it were miles only -- no PQP/PQF.
Having EK as a redemption option could be nice, however..
And I would not be surprised if it were miles only -- no PQP/PQF.
Having EK as a redemption option could be nice, however..
Sep 14, 2022, 12:29 pm
#114
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Sep 14, 2022, 12:43 pm
#115
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Sep 14, 2022, 12:51 pm
#116
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This agreement unites two iconic, flag carrier airlines who share a common commitment to creating the best customer experience in the skies," said United CEO Scott Kirby.
Sep 14, 2022, 1:31 pm
#117
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via The Points Guy:
“For now, passengers will only earn United MileagePlus Premier qualifying flights and points for the United segments, though in a conversation with TPG after the event, United executive Luc Bondar hinted that the loyalty integration would be expanded.”
Link here .
“For now, passengers will only earn United MileagePlus Premier qualifying flights and points for the United segments, though in a conversation with TPG after the event, United executive Luc Bondar hinted that the loyalty integration would be expanded.”
Link here .
Sep 14, 2022, 1:39 pm
#118
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Don't really see United benefitting from this agreement with Emirates. JFK is just a few miles away from Newark and it would be a no-brainer to be on the A380 instead. Unless someone wants to earn UA miles on their EK booking, or enjoy the Polaris, I don't think anyone would be willing to connect between two airlines in DXB, and would much rather be willing to be on an EK-metal (given the better soft product on EK) through their entire journey. The AA-QR partnership is well designed and established, and EK-UA will be struggling to be able to work this out on a long term if it were to continue on an extremely limited partnership and reciprocal benefits like this.
+ if this is all the hype was all about, then please take me back to the good old EK-B6 days, thanks.
+ if this is all the hype was all about, then please take me back to the good old EK-B6 days, thanks.
Sep 14, 2022, 1:42 pm
#120
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So….just so I understand this:
1. this is only useful at all if you are in EWR-DXB otherwise it’s moot. Like booking outright on emirates LAX-DXB-XXX is worthless for United flyers.
2. Assuming 1 is true, there’s no PQP/PQF earnings for the DXB-XXX sector of your ticket
3. UA elites will only get lounge access on the EK segment IF their previous flight is the EWR-DXB segment?
4. What terminal will United operate out of? Will gold and above economy passengers going DXB-EWR get EK lounge access? Or Nothing/LH Sen?
for someone like me who regularly communicated EWR-BOM for work, this route was the best route from a time and convenience standpoint. And it showed the flight was always full. There is no incentive for me to go LAX-EWR-DXB-BOM as opposed to the LAX-FRA-BOM that I’ve been doing as of late and I’m sure others share similar sentiments for other destinations in the region.
1. this is only useful at all if you are in EWR-DXB otherwise it’s moot. Like booking outright on emirates LAX-DXB-XXX is worthless for United flyers.
2. Assuming 1 is true, there’s no PQP/PQF earnings for the DXB-XXX sector of your ticket
3. UA elites will only get lounge access on the EK segment IF their previous flight is the EWR-DXB segment?
4. What terminal will United operate out of? Will gold and above economy passengers going DXB-EWR get EK lounge access? Or Nothing/LH Sen?
for someone like me who regularly communicated EWR-BOM for work, this route was the best route from a time and convenience standpoint. And it showed the flight was always full. There is no incentive for me to go LAX-EWR-DXB-BOM as opposed to the LAX-FRA-BOM that I’ve been doing as of late and I’m sure others share similar sentiments for other destinations in the region.