UA Mainland-Hawaii Lie-Flats
Apr 6, 2021, 2:04 pm
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Apr 6, 2021, 7:38 pm
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Apr 6, 2021, 9:32 pm
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Apr 6, 2021, 10:43 pm
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Yep, the 752 has appeared on routes from LAX/SFO to all secondary airports except ITO over the years, with seemingly no rhyme or reason as to when or where it's scheduled. Sometimes you see it on SFO-LIH, other times on LAX-LIH, and other times on LAX-KOA, etc.
In any given month, you can always count on lie flats from DEN and all hubs east to Hawaii, and on some flights from LAX/SFO to HNL. Beyond that it's more of a crapshoot, though with the premium demand we're seeing to OGG, I would be cautiously optimistic that lie flats remain on SFO-OGG through the summer.
In any given month, you can always count on lie flats from DEN and all hubs east to Hawaii, and on some flights from LAX/SFO to HNL. Beyond that it's more of a crapshoot, though with the premium demand we're seeing to OGG, I would be cautiously optimistic that lie flats remain on SFO-OGG through the summer.
Apr 8, 2021, 12:25 am
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Apr 8, 2021, 8:44 am
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Apr 8, 2021, 9:42 am
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Yes, F fares to Hawaii buys a seat, not a particular type. UA does not guarantee the lie-flats to Hawaii in writing. Some routes are guaranteed lie-flats by virtue of a/c required to operate (eg EWR-HNL), but west coast flights allow 737/757 swaps. Sometimes one can convince an agent to switch to a flight with lie-flats, but if they reduce lie-flats from West Coast to Hawaii, there will be that much more demand for them on the remaining flights. Plus the schedule might not work for some.
I do think UA (from my observational experience) realized a bit more pre-pandemic for lie-flat flights scheduled to operate between west coast and Hawaii, and a/c downgauges then were pretty rare. Paying a little more for those flights were a little bit of a crap shoot, though - the lie-flats weren't guaranteed.
I do think UA (from my observational experience) realized a bit more pre-pandemic for lie-flat flights scheduled to operate between west coast and Hawaii, and a/c downgauges then were pretty rare. Paying a little more for those flights were a little bit of a crap shoot, though - the lie-flats weren't guaranteed.
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Apr 8, 2021, 9:59 am
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Yes, F fares to Hawaii buys a seat, not a particular type. UA does not guarantee the lie-flats to Hawaii in writing. Some routes are guaranteed lie-flats by virtue of a/c required to operate (eg EWR-HNL), but west coast flights allow 737/757 swaps. Sometimes one can convince an agent to switch to a flight with lie-flats, but if they reduce lie-flats from West Coast to Hawaii, there will be that much more demand for them on the remaining flights. Plus the schedule might not work for some.
I do think UA (from my observational experience) realized a bit more pre-pandemic for lie-flat flights scheduled to operate between west coast and Hawaii, and a/c downgauges then were pretty rare. Paying a little more for those flights were a little bit of a crap shoot, though - the lie-flats weren't guaranteed.
I do think UA (from my observational experience) realized a bit more pre-pandemic for lie-flat flights scheduled to operate between west coast and Hawaii, and a/c downgauges then were pretty rare. Paying a little more for those flights were a little bit of a crap shoot, though - the lie-flats weren't guaranteed.
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Apr 8, 2021, 10:21 am
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right, they ran the full June update last night. Not clear though if that is 'all' they are going to adjust or just 'a start'. Definitely seeing TCON getting a lot more flights incl. SFO-BOS back to lie-flat ... so likely less planes available for HI flights.
Apr 8, 2021, 11:18 am
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Apr 8, 2021, 2:50 pm
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Had an SFO-HNL in early June that was on a 777-200 v.3 but after yesterday shows as a v5 with Polaris and Premium Plus, which (for now at least) shows up as E+. Happy to snag Premium Plus, though the Polaris upgrade was $350.