Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 32318529)
Well, IMHO, you are not going to be flying for a long while! I truly expect that masks will become mandatory in public spaces and certainly on airplanes here in the US. It's inevitable...
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Originally Posted by Halo117
(Post 32319569)
What does that even mean? Did they mean load factors? If so that is a false assertion as load factors have no bearing on profitability. How many times have we heard that mantra on FT.
Originally Posted by Halo117
(Post 32319569)
My complaint is touting safety only to cram them in by consolidating flights to high load factors. This will be a problem going forward and no vaccine. Save the lip service and give me my snackbox.
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"Social distancing" seat map confusion
Ran into an odd one tonight. Looking at flight #372 HNL-SFO for May 28. The seat map on the App shows 0 FC seats available for sale or assignment. The desk top version on ua.com shows 0 for sale but 11 available to assign. Called the 1K desk and they verified 0 for sale but saw the 11 available for assignment. The agent didn't know what to make of it. Is it possible this is the beginning of keeping seats open for social distancing? That would make sense, but the seats taken in FC all seem to be bunched (maybe assigned before social distancing went into effect). Thoughts? As a side note, there are a bunch of middle seats in Y that are open to assign.
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Originally Posted by bluedemon211
(Post 32329971)
Ran into an odd one tonight. Looking at flight #372 HNL-SFO for May 28. The seat map on the App shows 0 FC seats available for sale or assignment. The desk top version on ua.com shows 0 for sale but 11 available to assign. Called the 1K desk and they verified 0 for sale but saw the 11 available for assignment. The agent didn't know what to make of it. Is it possible this is the beginning of keeping seats open for social distancing? That would make sense, but the seats taken in FC all seem to be bunched (maybe assigned before social distancing went into effect). Thoughts? As a side note, there are a bunch of middle seats in Y that are open to assign.
Lots of the EWR - SFO/LAX routes with multiple flights per day in May have atleast 1 of said flights showing 0 FC flights for sale. My guess is they dont want to overbook J. |
Originally Posted by Dpetryszyn
(Post 32330275)
Its most likely a flight they dont plan on operating unless they see passenger demand.
Lots of the EWR - SFO/LAX routes with multiple flights per day in May have atleast 1 of said flights showing 0 FC flights for sale. My guess is they dont want to overbook J. |
Originally Posted by bluedemon211
(Post 32330361)
Ordinarily, I might agree with you but not in this case. There is only 1 flight per day each way to/from Hawaii and the mainland now that UA got approval to discontinue service to all other islands..... this one. I'm leaning to social distancing meets UA IT.
UA is not planning to fly the plane half-empty, up front, If that's what you're thinking. The seat blocking could be anything, but the inventory being zeroed out is likely because they consolidated all of their Hawaiian passengers to one plane. It wouldn't surprise me if it were actually oversold up front, as they expect people to cancel. It's just that some people don't have seat assignments yet. |
Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 32330372)
Do you already have a ticket on this flight, or are you looking to buy one?
UA is not planning to fly the plane half-empty, up front, If that's what you're thinking. The seat blocking could be anything, but the inventory being zeroed out is likely because they consolidated all of their Hawaiian passengers to one plane. It wouldn't surprise me if it were actually oversold up front, as they expect people to cancel. It's just that some people don't have seat assignments yet. Your explanations all make sense. I was just commenting that the App and ua.com seat maps for F are totally different. The App shows 0 seats to select in F while .com shows 11 seats available for selection. Neither has actual F seats available for sale. I've just never seen the seat maps differ between the App & .com |
Originally Posted by bluedemon211
(Post 32330412)
I'm currently ticketed on the flight in Y. The ideal for me would be for a light load and snag a row of 3 and stretch out away from other passengers.
Your explanations all make sense. I was just commenting that the App and ua.com seat maps for F are totally different. The App shows 0 seats to select in F while .com shows 11 seats available for selection. Neither has actual F seats available for sale. I've just never seen the seat maps differ between the App & .com |
Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 32330415)
Yeah, I noticed that there are 11 seats blocked on ExpertFlyer if you select the F cabin, but if you select the J cabin, they're empty. I wonder if UA just mis-coded something, and the app is looking up the J seat map whereas the web is using F.
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Originally Posted by jsloan
(Post 32330415)
Yeah, I noticed that there are 11 seats blocked on ExpertFlyer if you select the F cabin, but if you select the J cabin, they're empty. I wonder if UA just mis-coded something, and the app is looking up the J seat map whereas the web is using F.
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All middle seats blocked on upcoming flight
This is making me feel better about a trip I have to take. LAX-EWR
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6ebf119660.jpg |
Seems like it took them several days to get this fully rolled out, but I think it is now active systemwide.
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Yup. Here is the official statement from United when trying to change seat...
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...646b0d833e.jpg |
This is a positive step, but I'm not sure it will really lead to much distancing. They are blocking seats only for "advanced selection". If I read that right, once you get to the airport those seats can be assigned if a) a couple/family wants to sit together or b) they sell enough seats that those middle seats are needed.
With the drastic reduction in capacity (in many cases only 1 non-stop between cities where there used to be as many as 5-6) the odds are those seats will be needed. That means a lot of "touch points" between staff and passengers handing out boarding passes and people likely crowding the podium wanting seat assignments. I applaud their initiative, but I'm concerned the execution might be challenging in meeting real social distancing goals. |
Originally Posted by bluedemon211
(Post 32336573)
If I read that right, once you get to the airport those seats can be assigned if a) a couple/family wants to sit together or b) they sell enough seats that those middle seats are needed.
Originally Posted by bluedemon211
(Post 32336573)
the execution might be challenging in meeting real social distancing goals.
* r = 3 feet in πrē |
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