[Unconfirmed] UA Preparing to Sell E+ at Booking as Separate Cabin (like DL C+)
Nov 29, 2019, 2:10 pm
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Dec 2, 2019, 11:47 pm
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Understand unconfirmed, mere speculation, etc.
But I do think United needs to do something to make Platinum attractive. Currently, apart from the few PlusPoints they are throwing at Platinums next year the gap to 1K is too large and the difference between Gold and Platinum too small.
I will never make 3MM and at 1.3MM not currently incentivized to make 2MM.
But I do think United needs to do something to make Platinum attractive. Currently, apart from the few PlusPoints they are throwing at Platinums next year the gap to 1K is too large and the difference between Gold and Platinum too small.
I will never make 3MM and at 1.3MM not currently incentivized to make 2MM.
Dec 3, 2019, 12:19 am
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Dec 3, 2019, 12:56 pm
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How often do you end up #1 on the waitlist? In general, there aren't all that many Platinum flyers. What routes you fly, and when you fly them, matter a lot more than the distinction between Platinum and Gold.
With the pricing scheme for premium class, as well as DoD upgrade offers, I would be surprised to see these stats change for the better... likely for the worse as UA revenue management optimizes pricing.
Dec 3, 2019, 3:05 pm
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Just to add to this, my upgrade % as a 1K last year (2018) was less than 25%.......... as a platinum, I would be surprised to see it much above 10%, and would bet on less.
With the pricing scheme for premium class, as well as DoD upgrade offers, I would be surprised to see these stats change for the better... likely for the worse as UA revenue management optimizes pricing.
With the pricing scheme for premium class, as well as DoD upgrade offers, I would be surprised to see these stats change for the better... likely for the worse as UA revenue management optimizes pricing.
I earned my million Miler status 1,000 miles at a time between Florida and Newark mostly. Not with long haul international flights.
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Dec 4, 2019, 12:17 am
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Before I retired 2 years ago I was getting probably 50% upgrades in the summer and 25% in the winter between Newark and Florida with just gold. I guess it does depend on the routes and the day of the week. I tell my wife not to depend on it when we are competing with business Travelers between hubs obviously. tomorrow we're flying from Orlando to Las Vegas via Houston and they switched planes to smaller first class cabins and we're like 6 and 7th on the upgrade list with full cabins already. No joy. We'll be lucky if we have an empty seat between us in an exit row.
I earned my million Miler status 1,000 miles at a time between Florida and Newark mostly. Not with long haul international flights.
I earned my million Miler status 1,000 miles at a time between Florida and Newark mostly. Not with long haul international flights.
Dec 4, 2019, 7:00 pm
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Dec 5, 2019, 8:19 am
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Dec 5, 2019, 8:53 am
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Jan 2, 2020, 11:37 pm
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I followed the directions in the OP and did an advanced search for B fare class for a number of different routes, LAX-ORD and also LAX-DEN (which is not supposed to be in the trial) and in both cases, selecting the B fare pretty much allows a non-premier user to select E+ seats for free. So i don't know what to make of it ?
Jan 3, 2020, 12:22 am
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I followed the directions in the OP and did an advanced search for B fare class for a number of different routes, LAX-ORD and also LAX-DEN (which is not supposed to be in the trial) and in both cases, selecting the B fare pretty much allows a non-premier user to select E+ seats for free. So i don't know what to make of it ?
Jan 3, 2020, 8:28 am
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Well, they seem to have dropped the discount B fares that had been appearing before, so I don't think a customer who buys a B fare fore "free" E+ would be getting much of a deal. That said, I don't see the text about "Economy Plus" in these fare rules, so if they're still giving E+ on a B fare, it may just be leftover behavior from the trial.
Jan 3, 2020, 9:46 am
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Yes, i agree that the B fares pretty expensive (so the E+ isn't free from the cost point of view) but my understanding was that, previously purchasing any economy fare (even a Y) would still require you to pay separately to select an E+ seat (if you weren't a Gold+). Now it seems like, certain economy fare classes comes with free E+ selection which could possibly indicate that those fare classes have now been "re"assigned to E+ as a separate class (and i'm just hypothesizing here).
Now, you could still be correct -- this could be a precursor to DL-style "upgrades" into E+ -- but the simplest explanation is that it's just the way that they found to give E+ to PE customers.
Jan 3, 2020, 7:50 pm
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There was a move earlier to give free E+ on domestic flights that connect to Premium Plus; UA is booking those tickets into B. So, I suspect what you're seeing is a side-effect of that. This is different from the B fares that they set up that were using a differential price structure to track with the lowest economy fare. Nobody is paying a $700 fare difference on a domestic fare in order to get E+.
Now, you could still be correct -- this could be a precursor to DL-style "upgrades" into E+ -- but the simplest explanation is that it's just the way that they found to give E+ to PE customers.
Now, you could still be correct -- this could be a precursor to DL-style "upgrades" into E+ -- but the simplest explanation is that it's just the way that they found to give E+ to PE customers.
Jan 9, 2020, 10:24 pm
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New column "Economy Fare + Extra Legroom"
I couldn't find this in another thread but as a 1K when I do a domestic flight search, usually the results come back with columns "Basic Economy, Economy, Flexible Economy, and Business/First". However today is the first time there was a new column "Economy Fare + Extra Legroom" with higher fares posted than the regular "Economy" column.
Does this mean United is no longer offering Economy Plus to their 1K members for free, and now we have to pay extra for Economy Plus?
Thanks
Does this mean United is no longer offering Economy Plus to their 1K members for free, and now we have to pay extra for Economy Plus?
Thanks