United Airlines Kicks Elderly Professor Couple Off Late-Night Flight
Sep 18, 2019, 7:24 am
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Sep 18, 2019, 8:21 am
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Sep 18, 2019, 8:47 am
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The pax claimed it was an elbow tap. We have no proof that the physical "assault" was exactly that. Maybe it was grab or a pinch. We only have one side of the story. But note that since the PIRC did not decide to ban the pax from UA, it would seem that it viewed the assault to be relatively benign.
Sep 18, 2019, 10:17 am
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The pax claimed it was an elbow tap. We have no proof that the physical "assault" was exactly that. Maybe it was grab or a pinch. We only have one side of the story. But note that since the PIRC did not decide to ban the pax from UA, it would seem that it viewed the assault to be relatively benign.
Since it was elevated to PIRC in the first place (I assume this isn't a particularly painless experience for the FA either, and likely a time consuming, stressfull and unfulfilling event for all), my best guess is that what is referred to as an "elbow tap" is likely best described as an ELBOW GRAB & SHAKE.
That would fit the tone of the news article, the circumstance of the event, the likely state-of-mind of the pax and also explain the FA's discomfort.
Wasn't there. Just a gut feeling. Possibly wrong
Sep 18, 2019, 11:25 am
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no, we do have a form of they/they said (in the form of the report from United). What I meant is that we need 3rd party witnesses to comment on this, because even if the FA spoke up right now it will still be they said / they said.
Sep 18, 2019, 12:26 pm
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I was unable to find the report searching through this thread, is it publicly available? I did find where the passengers who were removed posted some quotes from thier response, and where they asaid the PIRC corroborated thier version of the events. Unfortunately both the latter are still they said instances...
Sep 18, 2019, 12:47 pm
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Sep 18, 2019, 1:33 pm
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Exactly.
The reply they request that be submitted within 96 hours is probably not going to sway them in any significant way, although it might dampen the harshness of the "sentence" somewhat.
Sep 18, 2019, 5:50 pm
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Sep 19, 2019, 11:01 am
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The gate agent only goes by what the computer system gives them for seat assignments, so it wasn't the gate agent that actually assigned dupe seats. May have been a software/computer glitch or something.....I fly twice a week on United and I can't EVER remember seeing dupe seat assignments, except when a PAX is looking at their connecting flight boarding pass in error or back in the old days before the computer assignments.
Sep 19, 2019, 2:25 pm
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In my opinion, the Dao situation ends up very differently if there was no video