nephew got bumped from UA TPAC flight and got zero compensation, not even hotel/food
Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 pm
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That’s not how I read it.
First flight across the Pacific Ocean.
First flight on United Airlines.
Has flown across the Atlantic Ocean several times on other airlines.
Given these parameters, I see only two possible scenarios where this United flight is originating someplace other than the U.S.
1) Nephew is traveling on an eastbound RTW itinerary with all previous flights on other airlines or
2) Nephew is flying back to the U.S. after a sea voyage that terminated somewhere in Asia.
Aug 17, 2019, 5:34 pm
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Companion pass possible? Not sure an uncle/aunt would necessarily be aware of all the details of my tickets when I fly. (Even if a confirmed ticket, uncles/aunts 2nd hand posting often has incomplete or inaccurate data. Here-say is rarely a great primary source.
Aug 17, 2019, 5:39 pm
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OP said that the nephew was confirmed in K class, which I assume means a revenue ticket on UA. In fact, OP has apparently seen a copy of the emailed ticket receipt and PNR.
Aug 17, 2019, 7:55 pm
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Aug 17, 2019, 10:11 pm
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Has UA ever IDB'ed at check-in - at least in the US?
Short of something major like a downgauge I just can't see them doing this. There's no reason to do it at that time, and a real chance that an inbound flight to a gateway will be delayed and there'll be no need to IDB. And even that's ignoring the DOT requirements and the need to ask for volunteers.
At a foreign port I can see it a being a little more likely - especially one with physical immigration where having to exit the airport might be more complex than in the US. But as has already been pointed out, "first TPAC flight" doesn't fit that anyway, unless he's on a RTW...
Short of something major like a downgauge I just can't see them doing this. There's no reason to do it at that time, and a real chance that an inbound flight to a gateway will be delayed and there'll be no need to IDB. And even that's ignoring the DOT requirements and the need to ask for volunteers.
At a foreign port I can see it a being a little more likely - especially one with physical immigration where having to exit the airport might be more complex than in the US. But as has already been pointed out, "first TPAC flight" doesn't fit that anyway, unless he's on a RTW...
Aug 17, 2019, 10:20 pm
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Has UA ever IDB'ed at check-in - at least in the US?
Short of something major like a downgauge I just can't see them doing this. There's no reason to do it at that time, and a real chance that an inbound flight to a gateway will be delayed and there'll be no need to IDB. And even that's ignoring the DOT requirements and the need to ask for volunteers.
At a foreign port I can see it a being a little more likely - especially one with physical immigration where having to exit the airport might be more complex than in the US. But as has already been pointed out, "first TPAC flight" doesn't fit that anyway, unless he's on a RTW...
Short of something major like a downgauge I just can't see them doing this. There's no reason to do it at that time, and a real chance that an inbound flight to a gateway will be delayed and there'll be no need to IDB. And even that's ignoring the DOT requirements and the need to ask for volunteers.
At a foreign port I can see it a being a little more likely - especially one with physical immigration where having to exit the airport might be more complex than in the US. But as has already been pointed out, "first TPAC flight" doesn't fit that anyway, unless he's on a RTW...
RTW would make some sense, but why would someone doing this buy a one way K class TPAC flight? I'm not familiar enough about UA fare rules to know whether a (*A) revenue nonaward RTW ticket in coach would book into K class on UA, OW TPAC tickets would be expensive and K might not even permit one way. Still, it's easy to imagine a USA college kid starting in the USA after the end of the academic year and making his way east toward Asia, and then having a mid-late August TPAC flight back to the USA in time for school.
Aug 17, 2019, 11:23 pm
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I assumed originating in Asia. I've seen multiple times the VDB happen at the check in counter due to customs complications. I have never ever seen an IDB/VDB as a US check in counter.
Aug 18, 2019, 12:07 am
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Aug 18, 2019, 3:01 am
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OP, send me the video and I'll put it up on my blog...tens of thousands will see it. If UA is playing games like this, they should be called out for it.
Aug 18, 2019, 4:02 am
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This kinda crap can't stand. Being pro-business in the US is no excuse for letting corporations get away with this ****. If you're going to allow over selling, which I'm fine with, I get why they do it, then there has to be consequences. Either they have to look for volunteers and pay max dollars in an IDB situation or there needs to be a standard set. If there's going to be no government interference, which I think there should be, then the airlines themselves could do a lot of good pub by setting a good standard themselves. "In any country that doesn't have a standard for IDB situations, we will pay X, and in any country that does have a standard LOWER than X, we will pay X anyway". Not like it's gonna cost them much.
It's amazing how quick the US airlines (in my one experience) comply with the EU rules, but any country/region that allows them to screw people, they will.
It's amazing how quick the US airlines (in my one experience) comply with the EU rules, but any country/region that allows them to screw people, they will.
Aug 18, 2019, 7:39 am
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To be fair with this, so far we only have OP's second hand account of the events, a description of videos which may or may not be complete, and the videos themselves may or may not tell the whole story.
Sometimes you don't get a complete and unbiased account of things on the first go...
Sometimes you don't get a complete and unbiased account of things on the first go...
Aug 18, 2019, 7:54 am
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One OP, 41 follow-up comments, much of which based on pure speculation. Let's wait for OP to come back with a bit more!
Aug 18, 2019, 8:12 am
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HKG-EWR, forced to move from exit aisle E+ to middle for off-duty UA employee
what's UK Costco's return/exchange policy on defective laptops? Is it the same as US
I, too, have never heard of being IDB'ed at check-in, especially at a US airport. It really makes no sense.
Last edited by jsloan; Aug 18, 2019 at 8:14 am Reason: "the gate" -> "check-in," since the statement made no sense otherwise. :)
Aug 18, 2019, 8:31 am
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So despite the complete lack of details, we are now offering, for example, on pure speculation, to promote the supposed video to get this story promotion on a popular blog? Cmon. Do we no longer at least try to verify things first?
again, I’m waiting for the details to see what might have happened. Speculation to some extent is fine, but seems to be out of control in this thread.