WineCountryUA

there have been other similar reports and seem to be increasing. The days of the dedicated crew for these routes are long gone and many FAs now on these routes are new or irregulars to the route. When bringing this up, remind them of the free hot meal for this route for E+ (which they have served or will serve) and the free drink are part of the same the package.

nycityny

It amazes me that this is still happening. I just printed the free drink policy from their website and will keep it in my carry-on luggage. I will be flying E+ between EWR-LAX several times over the next few months and will be prepared to offer the text to them if necessary. I guess others should do the same so that we can educate the cabin crew on their employer's policies since their employer refuses to do so.

cfischer

just get out the CC and file a complaint with UA asking for a refund. You'll probably get an ETC for the hassle on top of it. And hopefully that way UA can track the bad apples in their crew.

tstauck

LAX-BOS still isn't PS - is that correct?

Flying Machine

tstauck

Thanks!
- Tom

Presguy

Hi. I'll start by saying I'm not a regular or loyal UA flyer - I have a very low baseline of knowledge here.

Was looking at at couple of redeyes from LAX to the NYC area, and noticed many UA flights, for instance, 1165 LAX>EWR seem to represent a very strong value in first class relative to competition. Especially since these acft are configured to continue on the TATL crossings.

I seems like, for a fraction of the price of Delta One or AA Flagship, you can still get most of the hard product (a lay flat seat), and a decent expereince for a redeye.

Is my assessment right? I could book a redeye in a true,international first class cabin - even absent frist class amenities, at a signifact savings, just to get the better seat?

Thanks.

EDIT: To fix several of the late-night typos in the original.

lhrsfo

IAH-OIL-TRASH

Advance purchase P fares LAX-EWR are darn reasonable (I've seen $559 each way, maybe others have seen lower) for a lie-flat seat. One also gets United Club access at either end with these non-stops and free bags (latter important w/o status or appropriate credit card). I don't think pricing is much different between carriers, but I tend to hang in midtown/lower Manhattan, so I find training to Penn Station from EWR more convenient that flying into JFK or LGA.

EWR764

United's pricing in the market, as a general rule, is consistent with the business class pricing of AA/DL/B6 out of JFK, especially as it pertains to advance purchase, discount P fares. So, if your objective is to secure one of the products you mention, you can usually do it for the same price if you have some flexibility as to time and date. United is not, as a matter of strategy, pricing at a discount relative to the JFK competition.

Kacee

Fares are indeed the same across the board. IME, UA offers more of the discount inventory than AA or (especially) DL, so it may be easier to find a cheap seat on UA.

findark

As EWR764 mentioned, the pricing of the majors on LAX-NYC is identical, and AA/DL/B6 also offer lie-flat seats. If you see UA as a "fraction of the price" that's a quirk of the inventory (number of seats left) on your particular date, and feel free to pick UA for the savings

Yes, you get a true international first business class cabin, although note that the UA 772s on the route are usually the 77G which has the last-generation 2-4-2 IPTE seat in Business, plus lounge access at both sides (United Club, not Polaris).

Kacee

AA probably offers the best lounge experience on the premium t-cons, then DL, then UA. Though you could argue that DL and UA are currently the same (totally sucky at one end), pending DL's refurb of T2 LAX.

EWR764

Possibly a function of having the most capacity in the market, and generally, the largest premium cabins.

Kacee

Yes I think that's right. There is likely also a factor of DL being able to extract a premium from its customers.