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Only customers traveling in United Polaris business class or United Polaris Global First on international flights and customers in Star Alliance international first or business class cabins on flights longer than six hours will have access to the United Polaris Lounge.
Official Polaris Lounge Access Rules are here: Polaris Lounge Access Rules

United Polaris Business and Polaris First pax may access the Polaris lounge at connecting airports and their final destination within 24 hours of departure or arrival.

*A international J and F pax may only access the Polaris lounge at the departure airport. For purposes of Polaris lounge access, Canada, the Caribbean, Central America, and Guam are excluded from the definition of "international."

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Press release: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300278706.html

NEW YORK, June 2, 2016 /PRNewswire/ -- With the aspiration of making weary business travel a relic of the past, United Airlines today unveiled its all-new United Polaris business class, the airline's most significant product transformation in more than a decade, featuring a reimagined, sleep-enhancing, departure-to-landing experience for intercontinental travelers.

Named after the North Star, United Polaris is the shining new star of business class travel that flyers can turn to for a tranquil and restful journey.

"United Polaris will change the game in international business travel with an exceptional level of relaxation and comfort throughout our customers' journeys," said Oscar Munoz, president and CEO of United. "This completely reconceived experience exemplifies the new spirit of United and the innovation, excitement and operational momentum across our airline."

Path-Breaking Design

In setting out to create a transformative business class experience, United chose to outfit its widebody fleet with a custom-designed, exclusive-to-United seat, rather than select an option already in the marketplace. Designed in partnership with Acumen Design Associates and PriestmanGoode and manufactured by Zodiac Seats United Kingdom, each United Polaris seat will offer direct access to the aisle, 180-degree flat-bed recline and up to 6 foot 6 inches of bed space.

Crafted as individual, forward-facing, suite-like pods, each customer's personal suite will feature a "Do Not Disturb" sign, mood lighting, one-touch lumbar support, several storage areas, multiple surfaces for simultaneous working and dining, a 16-inch high-definition entertainment screen and, for seats in the center of the cabin, electronic privacy dividers. Complementing the new seats, United and PriestmanGoode have also conceived an all-new look for the United Polaris cabins.

In rethinking the international business class experience, United conducted more than 12,000 hours of research, and sleep emerged as the single most important priority for international business class travelers. United Polaris' path-breaking design and sleep-enhancing focus was inspired and informed by insights from hundreds of customers and employees, inflight product simulations and more than 100 product evaluations.

Sleep-Enticing Amenities

In addition to the sleep-enticing United Polaris personal suites, several other amenities were designed with our customers' sleep in mind.

In a first-of-its-kind partnership, United has worked with leading luxury specialty store Saks Fifth Avenue for custom-designed bedding. All designed to provide the best sleep in the sky, the new bedding collection will feature plush duvets, lightweight day-blankets and a large and small pillow for each United Polaris customer. In addition, mattress cushions will be available upon request.

Slippers will be available on all flights, and customized United Polaris pajamas will be available by request on flights longer than 12 hours**. Flyers will also be able to request a gel-cooled pillow. New amenity kits will feature ergonomically designed eye shades, calming lavender pillow mist and additional products from Soho House & Co.'s Cowshed Spa.

With the introduction of United Polaris, the airline intends to donate tens of thousands of pillows, blankets and other inflight service items to Fisher House Foundation, which United and its employees have long supported.

Elevated Dining Experience

Upon boarding their flight, each United Polaris customer will be welcomed with a pre-departure beverage of his or her choice and gourmet chocolate. While in the air, customers will enjoy regionally influenced in-flight menus updated seasonally, developed in partnership with The Trotter Project and its critically recognized chefs, including Bill Kim of acclaimed Chicago restaurants Urbanbelly, bellyQ and Belly Shack.

The airline will offer an upgraded wine experience, with the highest-quality options curated exclusively by United's Master Sommelier. Inflight service will also include made-to-order signature ice cream sundaes, a dessert cart with a variety of petit dessert options, chocolate truffles and wine flights. On daytime flights longer than eight hours and on all flights longer than 12 hours, hot mid-flight snacks such as lobster macaroni and cheese will be available.

Raising The Bar With United Polaris Business Class Lounges

United will also open an exclusive portfolio of United Polaris business class lounges in nine locations around the world – the only lounge of its kind offered by a U.S. airline to business class customers – that will feature custom-designed chairs, private daybeds, spa-like showers and chef-inspired hot meals served in a boutique restaurant setting so customers can refresh and dine before boarding their planes. Premium sparkling wines and spirits, refreshing snacks and bottled water will also be offered.

The first new United Polaris lounge will open at Chicago O'Hare International Airport on Dec. 1, 2016. Lounges in eight other locations – Los Angeles, San Francisco, Houston, New York/Newark, Washington Dulles, Tokyo Narita, Hong Kong and London Heathrow – will follow in 2017.

United Polaris Introduction

United will begin to introduce United Polaris on Dec. 1, 2016, with the new inflight food and beverage experience, new custom bedding from Saks Fifth Avenue, new amenity kits and the new United Polaris lounge in Chicago. The United Polaris business class seat will first take flight in December on Boeing 777-300ER aircraft and subsequently on Boeing 787-10 and Airbus A350-1000 aircraft, as well as on Boeing 767-300 and 777-200 retrofits.

United Polaris will serve business class customers flying the U.S. airline industry's most global route network, reaching more than 330 destinations in more than 50 countries.

More information on the United Polaris business class can be found at united.com/Polaris.

[From [email][email protected] 11/15/2016]
Starting December 1, 2016, United Polaris Business Class service will replace United BusinessFirst service on international flights, and United Polaris Global First service will replace the current United Global First service.

Between 2017 to 2019 eight additional United Polaris lounges will open at EWR, HKG, IAD, IAH, LAX, LHR, NRT and SFO. We do not have the exact opening dates at this time. A scheduling announcement will be forthcoming.
** Flights with pajama service (for both directions)
SFO - ICN, PEK, PVG, HGH, XIV, TPE, AKL, HKG, CTU, SYD, TLV, SIN
EWR - NRT, PEK, DEL, BOM, HKG, PVG
ORD - NRT, PEK PVG, HKG
LAX - PVG, SYD, MEL, SIN
IAD - NRT, PEK
IAH - NRT, SYD
(from United Twitter feed https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyjFHZLW...jpg&name=large

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Old Oct 15, 2016, 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28
That employee was misinformed. There will be no F cabin on the 767s however the new Polaris Business cabin will be 30 seats in 1x1x1 configuration.
That would be fine by me...never sat in GF on the old 763, but 1x1x1 BF would be great IMO. Perhaps a small downside is for couples traveling together.
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Old Oct 15, 2016, 6:50 pm
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As I have said before we seem headed for a simple reinvention of 3 class service under different names.
I completely agree. J is the new F, PE is the new J, and E has stayed.
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Wow! I have never seen this much negativity associated with an improved product and service launch, but this is United and this also Flyertalk after all!
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 4:07 am
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Wow! I have never seen this much negativity associated with an improved product and service launch, but this is United and this also Flyertalk after all!
This is the airlines that hasn't change the food on it's long haul flights now for 2+ yrs. To think that UA is going to be able to change over night we all know that isn't going to happen. To have only one plane with the Polaris seats at start, then have up to 5-7 by mid year, is a horrible product rollout.
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
This is the airlines that hasn't change the food on it's long haul flights now for 2+ yrs. To think that UA is going to be able to change over night we all know that isn't going to happen. To have only one plane with the Polaris seats at start, then have up to 5-7 by mid year, is a horrible product rollout.
How they they do it? Suspend a bunch of routes to retrofit so they can roll out 6 planes on the same day?
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
To have only one plane with the Polaris seats at start, then have up to 5-7 by mid year, is a horrible product rollout.
The 77W order (14) will be complete by mid-year with multiple existing aircraft in mods, and possibly some retrofit aircraft in service. Can you identify an airline that rolled out a new J product at a faster pace than what United is proposing?
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The 77W order (14) will be complete by mid-year with multiple existing aircraft in mods, and possibly some retrofit aircraft in service. Can you identify an airline that rolled out a new J product at a faster pace than what United is proposing?
There had been some talk on FT of the 77W order being taken up to 35 planes...was that ever confirmed/denied?
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 7:05 am
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How they they do it? Suspend a bunch of routes to retrofit so they can roll out 6 planes on the same day?
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The 77W order (14) will be complete by mid-year with multiple existing aircraft in mods, and possibly some retrofit aircraft in service. Can you identify an airline that rolled out a new J product at a faster pace than what United is proposing?
aren't there planes in for checks that could have Polaris installed instead of waiting? Aren't these retrofits suppose to go through a certification process? I would think the airline would like to these certification out of the way early.

AA has done a good job with the refit, except for the 772 but that wasn't AA fault for the issue they had.

Boeings going to be able to delivery 14 77W by mid year? 2 planes a month? that is with full interior, and ready for rev service.
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aren't there planes in for checks that could have Polaris installed instead of waiting? Aren't these retrofits suppose to go through a certification process? I would think the airline would like to these certification out of the way early.

AA has done a good job with the refit, except for the 772 but that wasn't AA fault for the issue they had.

Boeings going to be able to delivery 14 77W by mid year? 2 planes a month? that is with full interior, and ready for rev service.
There are probably no more than 2-3 planes per month in the winter scheduled for heavy checks, fewer (or none) in the summer.

The refit of the 777s was entirely AA's fault: they designed the seats, they picked a manufacturer and managed the production process. If AA had started with a different seat and a different manufacturer, they'd be in a different situation.

All of UA's 777Ws should be delivered with a full interior certified for service.
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Originally Posted by FlightNurse
AA has done a good job with the refit, except for the 772 but that wasn't AA fault for the issue they had.

Boeings going to be able to delivery 14 77W by mid year? 2 planes a month? that is with full interior, and ready for rev service.
HAHAHA

AA has 8 legitimately different (not just minor differences) J seats across their fleet at the moment that fly international (767 new, 767/772 non refurb, 772 J new seat 1, 772 new J seat 2/789 J seat, 77W, 757 non refurb, 757 new J, 788 J) and when they are done only 2 of those go away (772/767 old and 757 old).

Two of those are still angle-flat (772/767 old and 757 old) and will be for a while.

So I'm not sure I would point to AA as the model for refurbs
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 10:37 am
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So I'm not sure I would point to AA as the model for refurbs
Yeah AA still flies angle-flat on TPACs and TATLs.

Not to mention the US 320s, with no MCE, no power, no entertainment whatsoever, which are not even planned for any upgrade of any kind.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Yeah AA still flies angle-flat on TPACs and TATLs.

Not to mention the US 320s, with no MCE, no power, no entertainment whatsoever, which are not even planned for any upgrade of any kind.
Add in AA's RJs which also have no MCE, no power, no entertainment, etc. and things aren't any better on the AA side.

My miles this year were about 80% domestic flying so yes, AA's new 777s are nice, but the rest of the fleet (where it counts for me), not so much.
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by fly18725
The refit of the 777s was entirely AA's fault: they designed the seats, they picked a manufacturer and managed the production process. If AA had started with a different seat and a different manufacturer, they'd be in a different situation.
Acumen designed the seats. Zodiac managed the production process. Sound familiar?

On that note, Acumen recently admitted to having a similar problem with the Polaris seats as it did with AA's Concept D seats --- how to attach them to the seat tracks of the A350.

As for Zodiac, they are still trying to get deliveries on track, this according to a recent interview with the CEO in Aviation Week. If that weren't bad enough for United and Polaris, the CEO complains that airlines have become too demanding. They want seats as good as the ones that go into cars. Apparently, that's a new concept for Zodiac.
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 12:49 pm
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To me, the negativity is more about the (IMO accurate) assumption that the soft product being marketed will be:

1) Executed in a less than stellar manner. This is an airline that couldn't get the bottles of wine on the plane to match those on the menu and then fixed it by just getting rid of the menu.
1) First on the chopping block when the economy cycles back down.
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Old Oct 16, 2016, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Boo_Radley
To me, the negativity is more about the (IMO accurate) assumption that the soft product being marketed will be:

1) Executed in a less than stellar manner. This is an airline that couldn't get the bottles of wine on the plane to match those on the menu and then fixed it by just getting rid of the menu.
1) First on the chopping block when the economy cycles back down.
Hopefully Oscar is a bit smarter about this and takes a longer-term view on the value proposition of maintaining a consistent product that customers appreciate. That said, I am concerned that he doesn't have his ear to the ground on all matters (e.g. the recent change to MP award bookings).
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