Overhead bins for large items ONLY??
Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Really? Had I been forced to check my laptop bag, I would have to either carry my laptop in my hand for the rest of the flight as large electronics are not allowed in the seatback pocket, OR risk the damage/theft of laptop while checked. And you believe I should not be upset over being put in a situation like that? What if it was a less seasoned traveler who was forced to check their bag and lost the bag in transit? .
See how much the airlines have programmed us into believing something that is absolutely not true. Do you really believe that the Captain would have sided with the FA on this one? But somehow the fear of arrests and jail has been put into us for questioning even the most minor decisions by FAs. I would like to believe that it is not the norm (arrests/jail) as long as I am reasonable in my stance.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Apr 8, 2019, 1:05 pm
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It's just plain foolishness to pick a fight with an FA, just as it's foolishness to mouth off to TSA or CBP. Especially AFTER the issue has already been resolved in your favor.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
I've never had a problem with TSA or CBP. I did argue with a security guy in BKK though. I did not win and to be honest I'm not even sure if I was right, since the rules differ from country to country.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:07 pm
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I believe this to be true but the common belief is that if we say boo to the FAs we'll be deplaned/arrested etc.. I really would like to be believe that is not true.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:09 pm
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I think the foolishness is overstated. I don't take this crap and I've yet to be deplaned or arrested.
I've never had a problem with TSA or CBP. I did argue with a security guy in BKK though. I did not win and to be honest I'm not even sure if I was right, since the rules differ from country to country.
I've never had a problem with TSA or CBP. I did argue with a security guy in BKK though. I did not win and to be honest I'm not even sure if I was right, since the rules differ from country to country.
Agreed, this idea that these people (TSA, CBP, GA's, FA's) should never be questioned is beyond absurd. It's all too common for them to believe that they are the ultimate arbiters when they are often poorly informed and very very used to never being questioned.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:11 pm
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Apr 8, 2019, 1:13 pm
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It's just plain foolishness to pick a fight with an FA, just as it's foolishness to mouth off to TSA or CBP. Especially AFTER the issue has already been resolved in your favor.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
I refuse to be pummeled into submission by anyone when I know I'm in the right, and I don't care what sort of "authority" they think they have over me.
And if I was sitting next to the OP and heard the Clint Eastwood FA threaten her, I would have not stayed quiet either.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:15 pm
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Had he left the situation after asking the other passenger to check his bag, I would not be here writing this. What was unacceptable to me was that he came back and taunted me with the "You want to try me" comment. I'm a woman of color, BTW, but I don't think that played any role in this altercation.
Sadly, I had one experience in first class whereas, the gentleman behind me (happen to be olive tone) had his cellphone grabbed by FA who thought he was filming the cabin after closing the door. He was simply poor vision and watching a video on his mobile device with this business casual attire on. I wrote a letter indicating how awful I thought the treatment and felt bad for the embarrassment of the passenger and FA should get retraining - the reply was safety/operations matters. I didn't bother going back with the number of folks filming aircraft take-off/landing, their first/vacation/honeymoon flight, etc. without a peep. Honestly, that incident irritated me so much I would speak up if I were onboard and challenge the FA on unnecessary tone/confrontation is unnecessary as you haven't done anything. I agree the passengers have the numbers and shouldn't feel we are pupils in N.Vietnam forced to endure disrespect.
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Apr 8, 2019, 1:18 pm
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The reason I said gender/race did not matter is because the FA himself was African American (I'm not AA, I am brown).
Apr 8, 2019, 1:28 pm
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I REALLY argued with a GA once. I won that one too. Basically they gave away my pre-selected window seat and tried to put me in a middle. After about 15 minutes of arguing I was back in my window seat. It was about 10 years ago though and I don't remember the airline. All I remember was that the flight was somewhere in the Bay Area to either HNL or LIH.
Apr 8, 2019, 1:33 pm
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You, and me, and anyone reading this thread will remember this for next time and maybe be ready for it. Keep your chin up girlfriend and don't let the .......s get you down.
Apr 8, 2019, 2:37 pm
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Had similar experience on another *A airline in North America (I'll let you figure that one out). They insisted I put my dress suit organizer on the ground in spite of the fact that I checked my carry on bag in and had already put something under the seat in front of me. While it did fit, the fact that my freshly pressed dress clothes were in such close contact to the ground to be disgusting. Granted it was on a Q400 but you would think they would extend a little courtesy for a proud UA Gold traveller who travels regularly on business and makes use of the Zone 1 boarding specifically to ensure these situations never happen!
Safe Travels,
James
Safe Travels,
James
Apr 8, 2019, 2:44 pm
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BEGIN MESSAGE from United Customer Care
Dear Ms. pindi:
I'm sorry that you had such a poor experience because of our inflight crew member regarding your carry-on and personal bag.
You should be able to depend on us for reliable, courteous service and we let you down. It is very clear from reading your comments that we have some improvements to make and please note that I will be following up with the inflight supervisor to ensure this does not happen in the future. Thank you for your candid feedback and we’ll continue to work on providing you the service you deserve.
Ms. pindi, because your overall satisfaction is important to us, we would like to regain your trust. Therefore I’m sending an Electronic Travel Certificate for $XXX.00 which will arrive via email within a few days. I hope you will use the certificate to allow us an opportunity to provide the service you deserve.
As you are a valued Premier MileagePlus member, we do appreciate your feedback and look forward to welcoming you aboard another flight soon.
END MESSAGE from United Customer Care
For the record, I did NOT ask for any compensation. Just stated the facts and said I hope my feedback helps you in getting this FA re-trained. I would love to get info on the conversation with in-flight supervisor but I know that will never happen. I hope the feedback results in a small change in behavior of this FA.
Dear Ms. pindi:
I'm sorry that you had such a poor experience because of our inflight crew member regarding your carry-on and personal bag.
You should be able to depend on us for reliable, courteous service and we let you down. It is very clear from reading your comments that we have some improvements to make and please note that I will be following up with the inflight supervisor to ensure this does not happen in the future. Thank you for your candid feedback and we’ll continue to work on providing you the service you deserve.
Ms. pindi, because your overall satisfaction is important to us, we would like to regain your trust. Therefore I’m sending an Electronic Travel Certificate for $XXX.00 which will arrive via email within a few days. I hope you will use the certificate to allow us an opportunity to provide the service you deserve.
As you are a valued Premier MileagePlus member, we do appreciate your feedback and look forward to welcoming you aboard another flight soon.
END MESSAGE from United Customer Care
For the record, I did NOT ask for any compensation. Just stated the facts and said I hope my feedback helps you in getting this FA re-trained. I would love to get info on the conversation with in-flight supervisor but I know that will never happen. I hope the feedback results in a small change in behavior of this FA.
Last edited by pindi; Apr 8, 2019 at 2:55 pm
Apr 8, 2019, 3:02 pm
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Absolutely ridiculous.
This topic comes up here on flyertalk from time to time. There is even a contingent here who feel that someone who only has a personal item (no large item) should be obliged to put it under the seat, so as to be courteous to the other passengers... many of whom bring their massively oversized carryons AND oversized "personal items"... both of which they jam in the overhead.
For the FA to push this when you clearly could not use the underseat storage is outrageous. The later arriving passenger should definitely be the one to check a bag.
This topic comes up here on flyertalk from time to time. There is even a contingent here who feel that someone who only has a personal item (no large item) should be obliged to put it under the seat, so as to be courteous to the other passengers... many of whom bring their massively oversized carryons AND oversized "personal items"... both of which they jam in the overhead.
For the FA to push this when you clearly could not use the underseat storage is outrageous. The later arriving passenger should definitely be the one to check a bag.
Lets keep the topic focused on the on the topic and not deriding others based on your opinion that we all should not do the right thing. :x)
Last edited by Collierkr; Apr 8, 2019 at 3:10 pm