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Important Note: these fares became available 21 Feb 2017 for MSP for travel beginning 18 Apr 2017. More markets were added 19 April 2017 for travel starting 9 May 2017.

Related thread: Basic Economy Airport and Plane Experiences (First or Second Hand)

If you booked before the dates above, you did not have a BE fare. If purchased on united.com you will see a warning like:


4. MileagePlus members will earn full Premier qualifying dollars, 50% Premier qualifying miles and 0.5 Premier qualifying segments for each flight, as well as lifetime miles and toward the four-segment minimum.



Link to UA's description of how these fares will work: Basic Economy.

Here are the key facts:
  • No seat assignments until check-in. Seats will be assigned by the system and cannot be changed.
    *NEW* When purchasing a Basic Economy ticket, you will not receive a complimentary seat assignment but may be able to purchase advance seat assignments during booking and up until check-in opens. If you don’t purchase an advance seat assignment, your seat will be automatically assigned to you prior to boarding, and you won't be able to change your seat once it's been assigned.
  • No guarantee of adjacent seats with companions
  • No voluntary ticket changes after 24 hour purchase period
  • Carry on limited to 1 personal item unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Customers ineligible for carry-on who bring one to the gate will be charged a $25 convenience fee to gate-check in addition to standard baggage fees (source: @united twitter)
  • Customers will not be eligible for Economy Plus or premium cabin upgrades. This includes all forms of upgrades (CPU,supported or purchased). Likewise for E+ access (elite or purchased).
  • Customers will board in the last boarding group (currently Group 5) unless the customer is a MP Premier member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star Alliance *G
  • Companions on same PNR will have same boarding group and carryon if one on the PNR has a waiver
  • No combinability with regular economy fares or partner carriers. Interline travel is not permitted.
  • Tickets will earn RDMs (based on fare and status), PQMs (50% of distance), PQSs (0.5), PQDs, in addition it will count for minimum 4 segment and lifetime miles (New as of Dec 2018)
  • Basic Economy tickets will use booking code 'N'
  • Online check-in only with paid checked bag, otherwise need to see a United representative to verify the onboard bag allowance and receive a boarding pass.
In air, passengers will receive the same standard economy inflight amenities including United Economy dining options, inflight entertainment, United Wi-Fi (availability depending on the flight)

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New UA/*A TATL -LGT Economy fare - no free first bag, no changes/upgrades allowed

Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ

Pre-announcement speculation thread (now closed) New "Budget Economy" fares
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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:34 am
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United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ... {Archive}

Hi everyone,

Today we announced our newest offering, Basic Economy, which will give customers more options when it comes to their travel needs. Basic Economy will also help to speed up the boarding process so our customers can get to where they need to be on time.

While there are some differences to the Basic Economy fare, customers will enjoy the same United Economy cabin experience and services, dining options, Wi-Fi and inflight entertainment options. Available for sale this January, customers will be able to book Basic Economy fares for spring travel.

We will continue to offer a spectrum of products, from Basic Economy to standard economy to Economy Plus, as well as premium cabin experiences in United First and United Polaris.

Watch the video at United Hub to hear more about Basic Economy from our CEO, Oscar Munoz.

Thank you,

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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:39 am
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Should we start flying real LCCs?
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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:42 am
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Fare classes?

What fare classes would fall under basic economy? And would applying an upgrade move you to business or regular economy?
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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:48 am
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123 View Post
And would applying an upgrade move you to business or regular economy?
From the provided link:

Customers will not be eligible for Economy Plus or premium cabin upgrades.
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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123 View Post
What fare classes would fall under basic economy? And would applying an upgrade move you to business or regular economy?
"Customers will not be eligible for Economy Plus or premium cabin upgrades."


Is anyone else seeing this offered on any routes yet? Is it only domestic?

Are boarding passes going to be flagged somehow or will the machine beep to make gate agents check and enforce the carry on limit?

Generally at how much of a discount from regular economy will Basic Economy be priced?

Is the basic economy fare the lowest fare that will be shown in search engines now?

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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:54 am
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wow, this sounds horrid. so a GS could be in economy minus on a basic fare and earn no pqm, no seat assignment. yowza.
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Old Nov 15, 16, 5:56 am
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No PQMs, Boarding Group 5 (unless you have status or CC), seats not together if multiperson itinerary, no upgrade, no E+.

Wonder what will happen if only E+ seats remain.

I hate that Basic Economy exists but on the face of it, it seems to be exactly what you'd expect, no better, no worse
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:01 am
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I'm curious at how well they will enforce this:

Carry-on bags are limited to one personal item, unless the customer is a MileagePlus® Premier® member, primary cardmember of a qualifying MileagePlus credit card, or Star AllianceTM Gold member.
So during the boarding process, the machine will beep for Basic Economy pax? Would be kinda embarrassing IMO if it does.
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:05 am
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I'm curious at how well they will enforce this:



So during the boarding process, the machine will beep for Basic Economy pax? Would be kinda embarrassing IMO if it does.
Maybe Group 5 will be only basic economy pax?
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by edcho View Post
I'm curious at how well they will enforce this:



So during the boarding process, the machine will beep for Basic Economy pax? Would be kinda embarrassing IMO if it does.
They just need to check group 5, because those pax with status and cc will boarding from group 1 and 2....
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:07 am
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Originally Posted by iflyuaaa View Post
wow, this sounds horrid. so a GS could be in economy minus on a basic fare and earn no pqm, no seat assignment. yowza.
Only if the GS books that ticket.

I can't really object to the offering, assuming not everything moves this way.

But no lifetime miles? That just seems low . . . fine with no PQMs etc. But lifetime given all the other limits seems like something they could throw in. If someone flies 1mm miles on basic economy they definitely deserve lifetime gold status . . .
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy View Post
Maybe Group 5 will be only basic economy pax?
They said currently group 5, so probably they will make a group 6 or whatever..
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:10 am
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They just need to check group 5, because those pax with status and cc will boarding from group 1 and 2....
Still would be embarrassing IMO (even though most people in that line might not know what the beeping would be about).

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Only if the GS books that ticket.

I can't really object to the offering, assuming not everything moves this way.

But no lifetime miles? That just seems low . . . fine with no PQMs etc. But lifetime given all the other limits seems like something they could throw in. If someone flies 1mm miles on basic economy they definitely deserve lifetime gold status . . .
+1. I would think lifetime would atleast count but they don't even honor that here.
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123 View Post
What fare classes would fall under basic economy? And would applying an upgrade move you to business or regular economy?
I think "N" will be the one used as Basic Economy... because "N" did not exist for a while (all United's deal, including lowest price like $49 BOS-EWR, were booked in G)
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Old Nov 15, 16, 6:12 am
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Originally Posted by drewguy View Post

But no lifetime miles? That just seems low . . . fine with no PQMs etc. But lifetime given all the other limits seems like something they could throw in. If someone flies 1mm miles on basic economy they definitely deserve lifetime gold status . . .
+1... at least lifetime miles...
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