Should UA develop new hubs/focus cities?
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If you are referring to LAX, no airline has a 20% share -- LAX is interesting in there is no dominate share
4 carriers make up 60% and 10 carriers 85%
https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-we...rier-2018.ashx
https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-we...rrier2019.ashx
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=1
4 carriers make up 60% and 10 carriers 85%
https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-we...rier-2018.ashx
https://www.lawa.org/-/media/lawa-we...rrier2019.ashx
https://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=1
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When was UA over 30% at LAX? Can’t be any more recent than the height of the .com bubble, with the full Shuttle capacity dump in effect.
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Anybody can become the market share leader if they're willing to lose enough money to do it.
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DTW has gone from about 64% RJ flights 5 years ago to around 56% this summer. While still the majority of flights, I wouldn't simply write it of as an "RJ" hub. Biggest change has been in the number of 50-seater RJ's. From 172 CR2/37 ER4 daily flights 5 years ago, to 86 CR2 daily flights this summer. Many upgrades from 50-seaters to larger RJ's and from larger RJ's to mainline. They walled-off 16 RJ gates at the end of concourse C due to all the 50-seat reductions.
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Must have been a long, long time ago
Per https://www.lawa.org/en/lawa-investo...are-statistics UA pre-merger plus CO pre-merge was about 17-18% in 2010 and held that into 2014 and a slow decline (as DL increased to bit more than UA) to today's numbers (LAX appear to roll the express carriers into the marketing carrier)
Per https://www.lawa.org/en/lawa-investo...are-statistics UA pre-merger plus CO pre-merge was about 17-18% in 2010 and held that into 2014 and a slow decline (as DL increased to bit more than UA) to today's numbers (LAX appear to roll the express carriers into the marketing carrier)
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Must have been a long, long time ago
Per https://www.lawa.org/en/lawa-investo...are-statistics UA pre-merger plus CO pre-merge was about 17-18% in 2010 and held that into 2014 and a slow decline (as DL increased to bit more than UA) to today's numbers (LAX appear to roll the express carriers into the marketing carrier)
Per https://www.lawa.org/en/lawa-investo...are-statistics UA pre-merger plus CO pre-merge was about 17-18% in 2010 and held that into 2014 and a slow decline (as DL increased to bit more than UA) to today's numbers (LAX appear to roll the express carriers into the marketing carrier)
Now, not so much.
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UA has had the best ones for decades, both in terms of biz centers as well as logical east West orientation. Which is why they all remain or get additional investment post merger. SLC, CVG, PIT, MEM, CLE, not so much.
Connecting existing dots more thoroughly I see as a better option than trying to grow a new focus city.
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No airline is going to try to make someone else's hub a new focus city. Scratch SLC and DTW off the list. They aren't likely to make a focus city out of a mid-size market where someone else has much better market share already. Scratch CVG (DL), MEM (DL), and PIT (AA) off the list. There probably isn't a good candidate in the southeast as DL and AA have far higher market shares there.
The only airlines that are working on focus cities are F9 (primarily) and NS and they're doing it with price, not with building loyalties. To a lesser extent, DL. Southwest of course does it's own thing and well. UA's narrow focus on building international traffic and the feeds for that have probably caused them to miss any opportunities to expand much in domestic markets other than their hubs. That said, I'm told they are adding a few more flights out of CLE to Florida. They can do that there as they still have the largest market share.
The only airlines that are working on focus cities are F9 (primarily) and NS and they're doing it with price, not with building loyalties. To a lesser extent, DL. Southwest of course does it's own thing and well. UA's narrow focus on building international traffic and the feeds for that have probably caused them to miss any opportunities to expand much in domestic markets other than their hubs. That said, I'm told they are adding a few more flights out of CLE to Florida. They can do that there as they still have the largest market share.
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The best strategy in the state at this point is probably nibbling along the edges and trying to find a few routes that are underserved rather than a huge expansion attempt.