UA says Passport Required for Puerto Rico
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If the question is, having a passport while traveling a useful backup idea, I doubt many would disagree.
I always carry a passport just in case I lose my other ID (such as when it was stolen in BUD) or I have a change in travel plans that would require a passport (this occurred once and I was prepared).
However, carrying it just for diversions is perhaps a bit overkill. I doubt most road warriors on FT with many hundreds / even thousands of flights, even with a few diversions, has ever once needed a passport for such as reason. While a small number may have had such a needed, suspect this is very rare, I have not in 50+ years of flying with some 1,400 flights has that need arisen for my travels.
I always carry a passport just in case I lose my other ID (such as when it was stolen in BUD) or I have a change in travel plans that would require a passport (this occurred once and I was prepared).
However, carrying it just for diversions is perhaps a bit overkill. I doubt most road warriors on FT with many hundreds / even thousands of flights, even with a few diversions, has ever once needed a passport for such as reason. While a small number may have had such a needed, suspect this is very rare, I have not in 50+ years of flying with some 1,400 flights has that need arisen for my travels.
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I doubt most road warriors on FT with many hundreds / even thousands of flights, even with a few diversions, has ever once needed a passport for such as reason. ...
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We're talking about the very specific example of flying to a U.S. territory in the far east of the Caribbean. Obviously, this scenario doesn't apply to probably 98% of the average traveler's flights, just like flight cancellations don't apply to 98% of a traveler's flights. But as with flight cancellations, a very small amount of foresight can save a lot of time and hassle. If I unexpectedly found myself with 4 or 8 hours in Punta Cana or Puerto Plata, I'd rather go for a nice seaside lunch or dinner than sit at PUJ or POP.
As to the reason for the notice to the OP from UA... there is a 0% chance UA has ever or will ever require or even suggest taking a passport on such flights for that reason. The notice the OP saw was either generic language with all flights or a bug.
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It makes absolutely no sense at all. Should flights that skirt the coast of China (i.e., virtually all North American TPACs) also require that all pax have China visas? How about flights that overfly Russia (a high percentage of Europe-Asia flights) - should they also require Russia visas?
The fact is, airlines simply do not take diversions into account in the context of documentation requirements. Typically when an aircraft diverts to an unscheduled country, all pax are maintained in a secure area and do not enter the country, regardless whether they have their passports with them.
The fact is, airlines simply do not take diversions into account in the context of documentation requirements. Typically when an aircraft diverts to an unscheduled country, all pax are maintained in a secure area and do not enter the country, regardless whether they have their passports with them.
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On my diverted EWR-DEL last week we were close to the Nordic region and they announced a diversion for a medical emergency, we backtracked about an hour and were told we were going to LHR because of passenger visa issues.... I would guess Copenhagen would have been the closest airport, but I took that to mean that LHR was a better place to rebook all the passengers
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I wonder if the passenger in the OP's question is a foreigner and has a foreign passport in the profile. Many many years ago, the INS in Buffalo said to somebody I know that to go to Puerto Rico you need your passport. Naturally, when that person travelled to Puerto Rico, at no point a passport had to be shown there or coming back.
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Is there immigration in Puerto Rico for flights from the USA?
I am not a US citizen so would I need to show my green card?
I use a CA DL for domestic travel and use my Green Card (via GE) for getting back into the USA. US immigration does not care abut my passport.
Rest of world I use my passport (and immigration folks spend an age looking at it due to all the foreign stamps and visas).
Would not have occurred to me to take my passport with me to a US territory.
I am not a US citizen so would I need to show my green card?
I use a CA DL for domestic travel and use my Green Card (via GE) for getting back into the USA. US immigration does not care abut my passport.
Rest of world I use my passport (and immigration folks spend an age looking at it due to all the foreign stamps and visas).
Would not have occurred to me to take my passport with me to a US territory.
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https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/...-0-0-8289.html
I haven't flown to/from P.R. in a long time, but I'm guessing ICE pays closer attention to those flights, since it's not uncommon for people to enter P.R. illegally.
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If the question is, having a passport while traveling a useful backup idea, I doubt many would disagree.
I always carry a passport just in case I lose my other ID (such as when it was stolen in BUD) or I have a change in travel plans that would require a passport (this occurred once and I was prepared).
However, carrying it just for diversions is perhaps a bit overkill. I doubt most road warriors on FT with many hundreds / even thousands of flights, even with a few diversions, has ever once needed a passport for such as reason. While a small number may have had such a needed, suspect this is very rare, I have not in 50+ years of flying with some 1,400 flights has that need arisen for my travels.
I always carry a passport just in case I lose my other ID (such as when it was stolen in BUD) or I have a change in travel plans that would require a passport (this occurred once and I was prepared).
However, carrying it just for diversions is perhaps a bit overkill. I doubt most road warriors on FT with many hundreds / even thousands of flights, even with a few diversions, has ever once needed a passport for such as reason. While a small number may have had such a needed, suspect this is very rare, I have not in 50+ years of flying with some 1,400 flights has that need arisen for my travels.
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Strictly speaking, as a matter of law, foreigners are required to carry proof of legal presence at all times:
https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/...-0-0-8289.html
I haven't flown to/from P.R. in a long time, but I'm guessing ICE pays closer attention to those flights, since it's not uncommon for people to enter P.R. illegally.
https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/...-0-0-8289.html
I haven't flown to/from P.R. in a long time, but I'm guessing ICE pays closer attention to those flights, since it's not uncommon for people to enter P.R. illegally.
Fortunately I am white and do not get stopped on the I5 border patrol reviews between San Diego and Orange counties. Unless I speak no one would know I am not an American citizen as currently US citizens are not required to show proof of citizenship (although I do not think 1984 - George Orwell reference - is far off as people currently put RFID chips in themselves and their kids voluntarily).
Anyway, not that PR was in my future plans but one more reason to avoid the place for now - too many other places to go and see.
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Yet another silly thread where the correct answer is self-evident, it likely that OP simply misread the advice he was given, and has not returned to provide the information he actually received. Particularly because if someone told him that a passport is required for a USN to enter Puerto Rico from the mainland US, that someone would be wrong.
The thread has then devolved into a question of whether one ought to obtain a visa for countries one may overfly. The answer to that is the same as to OP's question: No.
The thread has then devolved into a question of whether one ought to obtain a visa for countries one may overfly. The answer to that is the same as to OP's question: No.
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At minimum, I hope the OP returns to tell us if the friend referenced in the OP is a U.S. citizen or not.
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There are plenty of reasons to avoid P.R., but carrying a photocopy of your green card would probably be a fairly safe middle ground, if you're worried about any type of ID check.
At minimum, I hope the OP returns to tell us if the friend referenced in the OP is a U.S. citizen or not.
At minimum, I hope the OP returns to tell us if the friend referenced in the OP is a U.S. citizen or not.
Agree, would be nice to know if the OP's friend is a US citizen as would make us non-US citizens rethink potential plans to US territories.
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I cannot imagine taking my passport to go to PR or Alaska. When you’re talking about 1 in a million events, I could also just as likely lose or damage my passport somehow on the trip. Were I not a US citizen I would do so, since as mentioned, that is required and prudent anyway.
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I know someone who had the Green Card stolen at DEN airport. The INS office where that person went for the replacement said that it's an obligation to carry the GC at all times. According to them, it was better to risk having the GC stolen than not have it at all times.