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Old Mar 25, 2018, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764
Word is out on another site (not my post) regarding a company memo about the May 1 "enhancements".

POLARIS SERVICE ENHANCEMENTS
Frequently Asked Questions

1. When do the service updates go into effect?
A: The service updates are effective May 1, 2018, on all long-haul international flights.

2. Why are we making changes to our United Polaris® service?
A: Customers have positively received our United Polaris lounge, and this year we are opening more United Polaris lounges beginning this summer in San Francisco, Houston and New York/Newark and in the fall, Los Angeles. As we continue to add more lounges, we want to take into account the feedback that customers have given us — they’ve emphasized their desire to rest and relax during their journey, especially onboard. The updates to the service flow will allow us to continue providing a premium product with high-quality food, wine, amenities and more, but it’ll be delivered in a more efficient way.

3. What is the new international United Polaris meal service flow?
A: The meal service flow for both first and business class will be the same:
Pre-departure
• Pre-poured sparkling wine, orange juice and water offered from a silver tray, with other beverages available upon request.
Main meal service
• Hot towels
• Linen placement
• Pre-meal beverage cart
• Appetizer and salad cart
• Bread and beverage refills
• Entrées
• Bread and beverage refills
• Dessert and pre-plated cheese cart
• Individual water bottles with hang tags
Mid-flight service (when applicable)
• Display mid-flight snacks on console, self-service unit, fold-down trays or galley countertop.
• Heat and serve hot on-demand items (when applicable) upon customer request.
Pre-arrival service
• Hot towels
• Pre-arrival tray setup with entrée and choice of beverage
• Breads and pastries

4. Will we be able to offer other pre-departure beverages?
A: Yes, upon customer request fulfill other pre-departure beverages in accordance with each departure country’s pre-departure liquor procedures. Refer to the Flight Attendant Policies and Procedures Manual to determine if you are allowed to open beverage carts/carriers that contain alcohol on the ground.

5. Is there still a chocolate offered during pre-departure?
A: Pre-departure chocolates/dessert will be catered on the pre-arrival tray instead for customers to enjoy during or after their flight.

6. What’s changing with the Bloody Mary and wine specialty beverage carts?
A: Wines and Bloody Marys will continue to be available upon request, but the dedicated cart service will change. This was a common flight attendant suggestion for improvement. A new branded cart cover is being sourced to improve presentation in the aisle and will be available shortly after launch.

7. Can we still offer wine tastings?
A: Absolutely. Although the wine arches with the 3 tastings will not be boarded, we can continue to honor customers’ requests to sample select wines.

8. What about the United Polaris first class soup and salad course?
A: The salad and appetizer will be delivered at the same time on a tray setup, instead of having a soup course.

9. What about the turndown service?
A: We will continue to offer the turndown service upon request.

10. Will Express Dining continue to be offered?
A: Yes, Express Dining will continue to be offered and can be requested and delivered at any point during the flight.

11. Will we continue to offer the mini desserts and fruit and cheese?
A: The mini desserts will continue to be offered from the three-tier cart with the signature ice cream service. In addition, pre-plated cheese will be added to the dessert cart. To make room for the fruit and cheese on the dessert cart, the specialty tea box will be removed from the cart, although specialty teas will continue to be available from the galley.

12. Are there any updates to the mid-flight and pre-arrival services?
A: There will be a few updates to both the mid-flight and pre-arrival service.
Mid-flight service (when available) – While we’ll no longer have formal presentation of mid-flight snacks, snack provisioning levels will remain the same and will continue to be displayed near the galley as is done today. Hang tags advising the customers that mid-flight snacks are available will be added to the individual bottle waters distributed after the main meal service. Hot snack items, when available, will also be delivered upon request.
Pre-arrival service – We’re removing tray table linens to reduce trips through the aisle. The tray itself will continue to have a linen liner. The pre-departure chocolate/dessert will be catered on the pre-arrival tray for customers to enjoy during or after the flight.

13. Will there be any new service items introduced to support the new United Polaris service?
A: Yes, there are a few new elements that will be introduced, including:
Cart covers – Similar to some of our competitors, branded cart covers for both the half and full carts will be boarded for use in the aisle on both the beverage and meal tray carts. Cart covers will be available shortly after launch.
Hang tags – To be placed on individual bottle waters at the end of the main meal service to advise customers that mid-flight snacks are available.

14. Will we be changing the domestic meal service procedures to align with the new United Polaris service (e.g. pre-poured pre-departure beverages)?
A: We will continue listening to the feedback of our customers and our flight attendants and will adjust our processes where necessary to deliver the best service for our customers.
Some key points:

- Return of the salad/appetizer cart, although I suspect it's just going to be the meal cart with a fancy cover, to reduce the number of galley trips with hand-run trays
- Beverage carts coming back to the aisle (similar to DL and the former 3-cabin sUA business class service) with branded cart covers
- Soup is gone in Polaris First (so no more differentiation; the product isn't expected to last the full year, anyway)
- Wine tasting arches are gone
- No bloody mary carts (already announced)
- Hot bites will stay
- Bread refills to be offered (return of the bread basket?)
- Pre-departure chocolates returned to the pre-arrival tray

In many ways, this is going to look like the former three-cabin BusinessFirst service with nicer linens and serviceware. Overall, not the sweeping change (or depth of cuts) I was expecting. No word on provisioning of the other items (gel pillows, mattress pads, slippers, PJs, etc.)
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by FlyfromDenver
They really weren't interested in feedback at the event I attended. I talked to someone about a couple of concerns and received laughs in return. It was a dog and pony show marketing event.
Originally Posted by goodeats21
My experience as well. It was all marketing, not a customer input session.
I guess at that point it would have been too late to change things
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 9:31 am
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This entire thread seems much ado about nothing. Near as I can tell they've eliminated hot bites only on the short TATLs and are going to do drinks from the galley instead of off the cart. That's it??? The rest is 11 pages of complaining and misinterpreting rumors.
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Old Feb 14, 2018, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
Of course there is the chance that UA inflight service leadership is just making decisions in a vacuum without acknowledging or assessing real life impacts - I've worked with someone in the past who liked to run around and insist that people should do things in a certain way, without actually having any hands-on experience themselves. It was highly obnoxious and that could be part of the problem here.
Historically, this has been a major organizational problem at UA... silos with little communication between each other making unilateral decisions which effect other aspects of the company.
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Old Feb 16, 2018, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by kirkwoodj
You can always buy one from united shop.
Sure, though paying for a Polaris bear is kind of opposite to the point...
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Old Feb 16, 2018, 8:52 pm
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Originally Posted by EWR764
...silos with little communication between each other making unilateral decisions which effect other aspects of the company.
Not to defend UA, but this happens everywhere.
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by boat9781
Not to defend UA, but this happens everywhere.
Fact, but my professional experience with major airline corporate structures is that this sort of culture is far more ingrained at United.
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by villox
This entire thread seems much ado about nothing. Near as I can tell they've eliminated hot bites only on the short TATLs and are going to do drinks from the galley instead of off the cart. That's it??? The rest is 11 pages of complaining and misinterpreting rumors.
You must be new. That's what we do around here. LOL
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 5:34 pm
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Faux-laris.
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 5:50 pm
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R is for Reduced amenities over time.
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 5:57 pm
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P
O is for over-hype and under deliver.
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R is for Reduced amenities over time.
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P is for Poor alcohol selection
O is for Over-hype and under deliver
L is for Lame bread selection
A is for Always running late
R is for Reduced amenities over time
I is for Inconsistent service
S is for Shockingly poor lounge rollout
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 6:38 pm
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Privacy and aisle access from every seat
Outstanding Thai chicken noodle soup and lemongrass chicken
Largest dessert selection in the sky
Availability of sub $3K P-fares to Europe and Asia
Relax with a comfortable seat and arguably the best bedding of any airline
In-flight Entertainment with enough variety to cover anyone
Smooth and safe landings every time - seriously, UA pilots bring their aircraft down like no other I've flown. I don't know what it is, but it's consistently amazing.

Life really is what you make of it.
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 6:42 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketer
Privacy and aisle access from every seat
Outstanding Thai chicken noodle soup and lemongrass chicken
Largest dessert selection in the sky
Availability of sub $3K P-fares to Europe and Asia
Relax with a comfortable seat and arguably the best bedding of any airline
In-flight Entertainment with enough variety to cover anyone
Smooth and safe landings every time - seriously, UA pilots bring their aircraft down like no other I've flown. I don't know what it is, but it's consistently amazing.

Life really is what you make of it.
I was just having fun with it, I actually quite like Polaris I just wish they would speed up the lounges. It's getting a little embarrassing on that front for them.
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 9:44 pm
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After flying my first non-UA business class flights in decades (LO on EWR-WAW and VIE-CMB on OS), it’s abundantly clear that UA has decided they cannot compete on the food portion of the soft product. Both were far better than UA when it came to food...UA can only reasonably compete on dessert, but the entrees and arrival meals were not even close. UA has better bedding, but on the old sCO seats, it’s a pain to store them.

On hard product, the new Polaris seat is better on all counts, but given how slow the rollout is, the sCO seat is better than the OS Vantage seat (has an incredibly narrow footwell) and has marginally more privacy than the LO seat (but is far less spacious). Interested to see how TG and BR compare, but I am now seeing why people are so down on UA’s business class product. It’s like I’ve had my eyes opened, and I don’t want to go back...
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by cricketer
Availability of sub $3K P-fares to Europe and Asia
Where to/from? When? Do tell
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 11:04 pm
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Faux-laris.
Poliars
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