Originally Posted by kwb007
(Post 27736777)
I'd like to get everyone's input on the downgrades that are hitting the GS program. So far, It's:
1. Elimination of GS check-in lines 2. Elimination of GS/First Lounges and intro of the Polaris lounge 3. Potential elimination of GS pre-boarding (like other GS's on FT, I've been told this in GRU multiple times but the GS reps deny it will happen at the moment) 4. Significantly longer hold times (I waited 5-10 minutes yesterday to talk to a rep which is consistent with a few other posts. I'm hopeful that the grumpiness of her attitude was a one time event...but notably that was rare last year. The GS reps are almost universally fantastic.) Please post any other changes that you are experiencing. It's seems clear to me that this is all designed to placate the 1Ks. They make up the bulk of UA's revenue so they are getting bump in their benefits package at the expense of the GS's. Even GS signage is being wholesale eliminated with 1K is replacing it. Seems odd to have an airline downgrade it's most valuable fliers. 1. I've heard this too but has anyone seen it yet? What airports? 2. This is a concern to me, too, but we need to wait and see if the Polaris lounges really are a downgrade from the old GF lounges. 3. Everyone at UA is denying this. 4. This is a downgrade but you missed another part of it, the previously dedicated GS agents are now assigned to everyone as are general agents. The lack of knowledge of some of the agents is astounding. All my calls are for international itineraries. I've had agents answer the phone as a GS agent and suggest if I call back I could get an agent more knowledgeable with international fares. |
Originally Posted by uanj
(Post 27737332)
I think we need to wait a bit before we know how much of a downgrade we experience:
1. I've heard this too but has anyone seen it yet? What airports? 2. This is a concern to me, too, but we need to wait and see if the Polaris lounges really are a downgrade from the old GF lounges. 3. Everyone at UA is denying this. 4. This is a downgrade but you missed another part of it, the previously dedicated GS agents are now assigned to everyone as are general agents. The lack of knowledge of some of the agents is astounding. All my calls are for international itineraries. I've had agents answer the phone as a GS agent and suggest if I call back I could get an agent more knowledgeable with international fares. |
Originally Posted by uanj
(Post 27737332)
I think we need to wait a bit before we know how much of a downgrade we experience:
1. I've heard this too but has anyone seen it yet? What airports? 2. This is a concern to me, too, but we need to wait and see if the Polaris lounges really are a downgrade from the old GF lounges. 3. Everyone at UA is denying this. 4. This is a downgrade but you missed another part of it, the previously dedicated GS agents are now assigned to everyone as are general agents. The lack of knowledge of some of the agents is astounding. All my calls are for international itineraries. I've had agents answer the phone as a GS agent and suggest if I call back I could get an agent more knowledgeable with international fares. |
Originally Posted by nigos
(Post 27737379)
Yesterday I received a schedule change on an international flight returning to the US from a European city thru Munich. Instead of a 2 hour connection the connection was only 40 minutes. No way would it be possible to make that connection given the need to go thru immigration and possibly security if my initial flight had a remote parking spot. After waiting 10 minutes on hold, the "GS" agent initially spent 15 minutes trying to figure out alternatives and came back with suggested changes that would require me to pay a change fee plus a large fare difference despite having the record on the agents screen. After explaining my expectations, the agent went off for another 20 minutes and came back with another silly schedule change when all I needed was a change to an early morning flight from the initial departure city. The agent then told me that was not possible because the fare basis was not available on that early flight. I hung up, checked fare bases and determined that "A" fares were available on all segments including the flight from the departure city. Called in again, reached a real GS agent who made the change in a few minutes.
i'm new to GS. but even as a 1k, in the last 2 years, i think they would have made the change you requested regardless of inventory without a huge fight. In 2012/13 they would not have (that's when i left for AA) but since i've been back, i haven't had any major issues on schedule change reroute requests. the only reroute request i had denied that they never would have denied pre 2012 was a VDB situation when i asked for DL, but they would rather put me in a hotel and go the next morning on UA. i finally budged and said yes but that still bugs me that i couldn't take the delta red eye. |
Originally Posted by LAXOGG
(Post 27737378)
I'll add another downgrade.......PN space on domestic has been eliminated or significantly reduced.
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Originally Posted by uanj
(Post 27737332)
I think we need to wait a bit before we know how much of a downgrade we experience:
1. I've heard this too but has anyone seen it yet? What airports? 2. This is a concern to me, too, but we need to wait and see if the Polaris lounges really are a downgrade from the old GF lounges.u 3. Everyone at UA is denying this On 3, when boarding at SFO last week to EWR, there was no GS. Agent did Families, Military, then straight to Group 1. |
Originally Posted by greenpau
(Post 27740221)
On 3, when boarding at SFO last week to EWR, there was no GS. Agent did Families, Military, then straight to Group 1.
MAJOR downgrade as I've always found this small courtesy useful in order to get myself situated before the overhead bins are filled (I'm looking at you, A319 front cabin). This is particularly valuable when seated in the bulkhead. UA lurkers, please remind the agents of the proper process - or tell your customers that this is not happening any longer. |
No more GS check in in PEK either,
But today the GA in DEN called GS together with handicapped ^ |
Originally Posted by aCavalierInCoach
(Post 27734978)
That is stunning
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This past week(thru monday) in IAD, SJC, DEN and IAH GS was invited on during preboarding.
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you know who you are, and you know what you are entitled to. just go up too board when you are ready.
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Originally Posted by holedigger458
(Post 27740706)
you know who you are, and you know what you are entitled to. just go up too board when you are ready.
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The flight was on the jetway for boarding. I've talked with other GS's who have heard similar rumblings from other gate agents.
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Originally Posted by Lawyerneering
(Post 27740797)
Yeah, that's not how it works. At best it's a DYKWIA move. At worst, you aren't boarding the plane at all.
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Long hold times
What's going on with the "super long" (yes I know I got spoiled) hold times...? Based on my time with GS status:
<2012: No ring, straight to agent pick up with them saying, "Mr. xxxxx" 2012-2016: A few rings with an automated message but very quick 2017: 5-10 minutes Also, took 17 minutes on the phone today for an agent to add a RPU to an award ticket.... this used to take minutes. |
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